--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 4, 2006, at 3:02 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: > > >> Seeing it being all that is > >>> needed is MMY's biggest fallacy. It has justified him dishonest > >>> behaviour, because for him how his mind operates doesn't matter, > >>> only > >>> bliss matters. His thinking has probably gone in the following > >>> routes: > >>> "Because I'm bringing to the world this absolute bliss, I'm > >>> beyond the > >>> karmic consequences of my gross level behaviour. It is allowed > >>> for me > >>> just to make a powerful impression and manipulate people > >>> following me. > >>> When the bliss transforms the world, I too will be automatically > >>> purified.What I now do behind the curtains doesn't really matter." > >>> Maybe not on the big cosmic scale. He is too small a speck there. > >>> But > >>> for his personal evolution it certainly does, and karma he cannot > >>> escape.Accepting one's defects and being open with them is in itself > >>> transformative. Pretending to be something one is not, even if it > >>> happens in the name of a higher good, is degenerative. This is easy > >>> to see to be true also for MMY. > >>> He has been a messenger boy and brought something important to the > >>> west, as have many other teachers. And many people have benefited > >>> from > >>> his teachings in spite of its weaknesses. > >> > >> > >> I thought you said m ost people didn't benefit from TM> Which is it? > >> > > > > Many have benefited, most of the people who learned TM not. > > > > When I read your responses, I get now, as I have got earlier too > > the impression, that you work very hard internally, to not to > > understand and to distort, what people, who don't agree with your > > thinking, write. > > He's not the only one here who does this. For some, it's as if > it's their life's mission.
So it's never the case that people with whom these "some" don't agree do not write clearly? When I read Irmeli's post--before I'd seen Lawson's response--I also saw an apparent contradiction between "Most people who have learned this simple technique have benefited very little from it" and "Many people have benefited from his teachings in spite of its [sic] weaknesses." > It really is bizarre, and I often I just relegate it to the bizarro- > bin, but at the same time you can't help but be disturbed by the > "work [done] very hard internally, to not to understand and to > distort" part. No bells of conscience (seemingly); is "cosmic > heroin" (meditative bliss) that strong a drug? This is clear enough; and it's clearly bullshit. Vaj in particular is frequently guilty of writing obscurely and even sloppily--and then arrogantly declining to clarify. The "work [done] very hard internally" is an attempt to make sense of what he writes, not to *not* understand it. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/