--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:40 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> dge.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> SSR's focus is on his breathing techniques, not meditation.
> > Can
> >>> you imagine MMY supporting that idea?>>.
> >>>
> >>> There was a guy called Ishvara that did the same thing. Focus on
> >>> breath. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt....useless.
> >>> (Try a hug anyone? )
> >>>
> >>> OffWorld
> >
> >
> >>
> >>    Pranayama, by itself, is supposed to be a valid way to gain
> > enlightenment. >>>
> >
> >
> > No it is not effective for gaining enlightenment on its own.
> >
> > However, MMY has always claimed that TM is the best single method
> > out there, at least for householders. I can't imagine that he's
> > changed his mind.>>>
> >
> > Is it Pranayama that is being taught by Ravi Shankar? or as you said
> > it is "focus on breath". The latter is not pranayama.
> 
> 
> SSRS used to require pranayama and purification *before* initiation  
> into what is essentially an advanced version of TM (TM + a crucial  
> "advanced" technique). I imagine he still does. All these practices  
> have profound scriptural and lineal backing. In other words, they're  
> supported by millennia of yogic experience.
> 
> Sri Swami Rama, an initiate of Guru Dev, also required this, plus  
> correct asana.
>

Is this the guy who wrote "LIfe with the Himalayan Masters?" He was initiated 
into a japa 
technique counting beads, IIRC.





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