--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > i posted this original post as a joke. But with a serious point. > > Something Barry touched on earlier. We take target or desired > > physiological parameters as a given -- with scant justification -- > > though admittedly often with basic common sense. > > > > Just because brain waves become coherent, or "low-S values" seem like > > a good thing, how do we know without really digging into the research > > literature. Epileptics have coherent brain wave patterns, and > > neurotically disturbed patients have low S-values. So why should > > coherent brain waves and low S-values, or any physiological value > > necessarily be "good", always, on an a priori basis. ? And "good for > > everyone"? > > > > The kind of EEG coherence found during TM is most obviously found in people who report > periods of transcendence during TM. > > IS this a good thing, or a bad thing, or just a thing?
It may be a good thing. But PDA (playing davils' advocate), why are self-reports of "transcendence" necessarily a good thing? maybe its a real experience, maybe a repsonse the subject knows the researchers want. Maybe its ull transscendence, maybe its not. Its somsething the subject interprets as transcendence. Maybe they have a clear interpretation, maybe not. Maybe this type of transcendence is good, maybe its not. It CAN all becomes a self-fulfilling tautology: This coherence is GOOD because it correlates with "self-reported transendence". But "self-reported transendence" is GOOD because it correlates with this type of coherence. Remeber I said "We take target or desired physiological parameters as a given -- with scant justification -- though admittedly often with basic common sense." I am not arguing against common sense. I am advocating celebrating when some REAL GOOD is found via a practice, not some intermediary, tautological "marker". ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
