Just curious: Where did you see someone levitate, or become invisible; And why do you think that this person could do these siddhis; when the rest of us, who are practicing only experience glimpses of the actual siddhi... What was the 'atmosphere' like in the area, where someone is actually levitating>>??
> > Since you like stories, and believe anything (except > > with 'Maharishi' in the sentence), there was a person who could see > > people's auras, and went to see Maharishi speak at the Albert Hall > > in London, way back when. > > > > The person could not see Maharishi's aura, and thought that this was > > very strange. She went outside later, (while Maharishi was still in > > there) and realised that his aura was bigger than the Albert hall > > and was emenating brightly as the aura around the whole big > > building. > > Yeah, I've heard that story, set in four or five > *different* halls around the world. :-) > > All such perceptions are subjective. I carefully > put at the end of my post "Your mileage may vary." > > I've met many people (including many here) who > felt some extraordinary energy being radiated by > Maharishi. I never felt anything terribly inter- > esting, in fourteen years, whereas I *did* feel > (and see) interesting energy being radiated by > other spiritual teachers. > > My feelings about Maharishi and his state of > consciousness are *not* based on any visual or > energetic phenomenon. My personal "yardstick" > for enlightenment is based on what it is like > to meditate in the same room with the person. > For me (which is subjective, of course, and not > any kind of universal measure), if you are *able* > to have thoughts while meditating in the same > room with the teacher, their enlightenment is > in question. I have sat with people with whom > it is almost impossible to have thoughts in > meditation while meditating with them -- the > meditation starts in transcendence, continues > in transcendence, and ends in transcendence, > with at most one or two thoughts intervening, > at the start and and the end of the session. > > With Maharishi, that was never the case. With > other teachers with whom I have meditated, it > was definitely true. > > What does this mean? Well, maybe nothing, maybe > something. I just know that I have my preferences > in life, and for me *no amount* of flash impresses > me. I have witnessed levitation and someone disap- > pearing and becoming completely invisible, and > seen someone 'project the double' (one body is still > standing in front of you and a second body is stand- > ing some distance away, waving at you), and lots of > other flashy stuff. My consistent reaction to seeing > these things, once the initial "Wow, that's neat" > was over, was always (and still is), "Big whoop! > Show me the money." > > "The money," for me, is silence, the experience of > non-thought plus awareness that is transcendence, > samadhi. My feeling is that if a teacher can convey > that and help his students to experience it, then > *that* might be of use to the seeker. If you've > experienced transendence for fifteen, twenty, thiry > minutes at a stretch, without a single thought inter- > vening, then in my experience that can of use to you > in your own meditations, in achieving similar results > when you are not meditating with the teacher. Miracles > and other flashy stuff? Big whoop! What is the value > to the seeker of having witnessed them, other than to > make the point that such things are possible? > > Also, I think that there is a 'resonance' factor > that enters this equation. Some people can sit in > a room with someone who is famous for being able > to 'radiate golden light' (this is, BTW, the very > *definition* of the occult phenomenon that is attrib- > uted to Sri Chinmoy, and that nabius says he saw > around Chinmoy, Maharishi and Benjamin Creme), and > they witness the phenomenon. Other people sit in the > same room with the same teacher and see nothing. > Nada. Bupkus. > > Therefore I have to assume that there is some > *interaction* phenomenon going on -- some people > are more able to see such flashy stuff with a par- > ticular teacher because their perceptions are more > attuned to the kind of energy that this particular > teacher is able to emanate. Others can sit in the > same room and see and feel absolutely nothing. > > Bottom line for me is that 'miracles' and being able > to do flashy things with light and 'display auras' > is just a cheap energy trick that has nothing to > do with being enlightened. Hell, *I* experimented, > back during the time I was teaching for Rama, with > being able to 'emanate golden light.' All that it > required was a certain level of breath control and > then a channeling of the subtle energy a certain way, > and students in the rooms in which I was teaching > reported (without having been prompted) that they > could see golden light radiating off of me. Again, > big whoop! I wasn't enlightened; nowhwere near it. > I had just learned enough fundamental energy control > to be able to manifest that particular sidhi. I got > tired of it really quickly, and haven't tried to > practice it since, but you can understand why I don't > put much stock in "tales of auras." I mean, really... > you're read my posts...if *I* can do this shit from > time to time, how 'special' is it really, and how > much relationship to actual full-time, full-blown > enlightenment can it possibly have? :-) :-) :-) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
