--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:51 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > >> > >> > >>> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it flying? Because if that's the > >>> case, Dave should complain about Patanjali, not the TMO. > >>> > >> > >> > >> Well that's only partly the case. The fact is, in the Patanjali oral > >> and written tradition, which does still exist, it's stated that there > >> are actually *two* sutras for true "flying"/hovering--and in the TM- > >> Sidhi formulae you are only given *one*. In addition, there are other > >> practices and techniques that must be mastered. One is bringing a > >> certain form of prana into the head/skull. Unfortunately this is the > >> same prana that underlies thought processes. Screw this technique up > >> and you go, well, insane. > >> > >> This has all been verified by other TM-Sidhi practitioners from the > >> successor of Tat Whale Baba, who also indicated the other missing > >> elements in the TM-Sidhi program. They are very significant IMO. > >> > >> The hopping artifact is well known in yogic literature as the > >> bhuchari siddhi--the siddhi of hopping like a frog. It happens when > >> prana kundalini is stimulated at the level of the root (muladhara) > >> chakra....It can be achieved by mere pranayama. It's no big deal. > >> > >> But it *is* a big sell, or used to be. > >> > >> > > > > Heh. Yogananda claims that levitation itself can be obtained by > > "mere pranayama." MMY > > claims that "mere pranayama" can bring one to enlightenment. > > > > What's so mere about it? > > Can you provide quotes for both? The yogic tradition is pretty clear > on what pranayama should do for us: it clears out the nadis. The > fourth pranayama--which may be what you're referring to is essential > for both the development of siddhis and samadhi a la Patanjali--but > this is not generally what people mean when they use the word > "pranayama". > > You sure yogananda wasn't referring to kriya-yoga rather than just > pranayama? >
Perhaps he used the word "kriyas" insteaad of Pranayama. It's been years since I looed at his book. And MMY claims that any of the limbs of yoga can bring one to enlightenment. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
