--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I enjoyed the experience of flying for the ten years I did it, and TM
> for 15 years.  Once I shifted my view of its value, I never desired
> the experience again.  I think the experience's value is not as
> "self-evident" as some claim.  Maybe the belief system has to support
> it. Otherwise it just seems odd, and not an experience I would seek
> out these days.  As far as it benefit, that I no longer buy.  I think
> it is sort of a mini epileptic fit.  Not too dangerous probably, but
> not the greatest experience ever.   I don't see people who have kept
> it up as special in any way I can detect.  By now it really should
> have produced more of the claimed benefits in people practicing so
> long.  In the old days we would joke that without TM a person might be
> even worse!  That claim is getting hollower and hollower each decade. 
> 
> As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very
> overrated as a valuable experience.  

Who rates it as valueable? Certainly not MMY.

Relaxation seems necessary in my
> life in much smaller doses now that I don't do a program.  The biggest
> wellbeing booster for me is exercise.  That experience seems to give
> me all the mental clarity I was seeking with TM with the added benefit
> of giving me much more energy.  All that eyes closed time of the
> program seems to sap people's energy despite the claims.  I don't hang
> out with anyone who needs a nap in the afternoon. (anyone with kids
> excluded!) It is just something that people get used to I think. It
> took me a few days to get over the need for program, then I just never
> considered the need for more rest after sleeping, or in the afternoon.
>  There are too many activities that give me joy and help me grow.  I
> have become the busy businessman of the checking notes and wouldn't
> have it any other way!
> 
> I always knew that most people drop TM after practicing it.  At the DC
> center we got a big wake-up call when we tried to contact the 10,000
> people who had been initiated at the center.  I don't remember the
> numbers but it shocked us at the time.  How could so many people drop
> the practice if transcending was all that? 

Who told you it was?







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