On Jul 21, 2006, at 11:34 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:38 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
On Jul 21, 2006, at 2:29 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
On Jul 20, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote:
In a message dated 7/20/06 9:51:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sparaig@ writes:
to see the master
walking on the petals who lived in a million dollar stecketo
house
overlookin' the Himalayas."
Is this an accurate description of MMY's house in Rishikesh?
Maybe 5 to 10 thousand dollar house over looking the Ganges. Brick
and
concrete, maybe 16,000 square feet at best, plain and simple
labor and materials
were, and still are, dirt cheap in India. In today's market one
could buy a
house like that in India for about 20k.
16,000 square feet is a VERY large house...
Yeah, so, I'm not sure, I get what you're saying? Is it like: "What's love got to do with it?" or something like 'what's a big house on the Ganges, got to do with it? Still not sure what having a big house has to do with anything? What's up with the house?
I think the idea expressed in Lennon's song was, 'wow this guy is really attached to money, houses and "things".'--how "holy" can he be?
Not very.
And just how attached was Lennon to thse things?
Lennon didn't claim to be a renunciate, a rishi or a yogi.
It's really interesting because in yogic-speak there are two words which are used to describe two diametrically opposed modes of being: the yogi and the bhogi. The bhogi, the enjoyer of the senses and the material is also involved in the world and things and "business": wealth. So without really knowing this, Lennon just intuited that he was really "Maharishi" Mahesh Bhogi. The Bhogi Man.
bhogin 2 mfn. (for 1. see col. 2) enjoying , eating Ma1rkP. Prasan3g. ; having or offering enjoyments , devoted to enjñenjoyments , wealthy , opulent MBh. Ya1jn5. Var. &c. ; suffering , experiencing , undergoing Kap. ; using , possessing MW. ; m. a voluptuary MW. ; a king L. ; the head man of a village L. ; a barber L. ; = %{vaiyAvRtti-kara} (?) L. ; a person who accumulates money for a partic. expenditure W. ; N. of a prince VP. ; (%{inI}) f. a kind of heroine Bhar. ; the concubine of a king or a wife not regularly consecrated with him L.
And MMY hasn't claimed to be a renunciate in many decades. He's explicitly called himself a householder, as I already pointed out. And he never took sanyasin vows. Even so, show me his personal wealth, or his deep pockets or his dozens of Rolls Royces, etc.
The point is, there's a yogi and there's a bhogi. Lennon pegged Mahesh right on. MMB.
There are plenty of alternate definitions up there. I agree that this one could fit: "a person who accumulates money for a partic. expenditure."
I would say "enjoying...having enjoyments, wealthy, opulent, using, possessing" also are spot on.
"Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of money, and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own helicopters, airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved in business planning about making money? It is because he is a businessman who has the desires that other wealthy businessmen have. His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to give him their time and money."
-Earl Kaplan, former close MMB associate and donor.
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