--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK. I thought you were joking. Transcending is the cornorstone of > MMY's program. It is the single most important part of his teaching. > It is considered going to the home of all knowldedge and all the laws > of nature. It is going to the highest first. It is watering the root > so you can enjoy the fruit. It is pulling back the bow so you can let > the arrow of activity fly. It is the rest before activity. It is > capturing the fort so you can enjoy all the silver and gold mines. > > Come on Spraig help me out here. You are a sharp guy. What are you > talking about? MMY considers transcending "Valuable".
Perhaps you meant the *process* of transcending rather than what you wrote, the *experience* of transcending. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > Come on Spraig, don't play with me. > > > > > > > I was beign perfectly serious. Your response is a fine example of > how someone can > > become a TM teacher and never "get" TM, apparently. > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed the experience of flying for the ten years I did it, > and TM > > > > > for 15 years. Once I shifted my view of its value, I never > desired > > > > > the experience again. I think the experience's value is not as > > > > > "self-evident" as some claim. Maybe the belief system has to > support > > > > > it. Otherwise it just seems odd, and not an experience I would > seek > > > > > out these days. As far as it benefit, that I no longer buy. > I think > > > > > it is sort of a mini epileptic fit. Not too dangerous > probably, but > > > > > not the greatest experience ever. I don't see people who > have kept > > > > > it up as special in any way I can detect. By now it really should > > > > > have produced more of the claimed benefits in people practicing so > > > > > long. In the old days we would joke that without TM a person > might be > > > > > even worse! That claim is getting hollower and hollower each > decade. > > > > > > > > > > As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very > > > > > overrated as a valuable experience. > > > > > > > > Who rates it as valueable? Certainly not MMY. > > > > > > > > Relaxation seems necessary in my > > > > > life in much smaller doses now that I don't do a program. The > biggest > > > > > wellbeing booster for me is exercise. That experience seems > to give > > > > > me all the mental clarity I was seeking with TM with the added > benefit > > > > > of giving me much more energy. All that eyes closed time of the > > > > > program seems to sap people's energy despite the claims. I > don't hang > > > > > out with anyone who needs a nap in the afternoon. (anyone with > kids > > > > > excluded!) It is just something that people get used to I > think. It > > > > > took me a few days to get over the need for program, then I > just never > > > > > considered the need for more rest after sleeping, or in the > afternoon. > > > > > There are too many activities that give me joy and help me > grow. I > > > > > have become the busy businessman of the checking notes and > wouldn't > > > > > have it any other way! > > > > > > > > > > I always knew that most people drop TM after practicing it. > At the DC > > > > > center we got a big wake-up call when we tried to contact the > 10,000 > > > > > people who had been initiated at the center. I don't remember the > > > > > numbers but it shocked us at the time. How could so many > people drop > > > > > the practice if transcending was all that? > > > > > > > > Who told you it was? > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
