--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> OK.  I thought you were joking.  Transcending is the cornorstone of
> MMY's program.  It is the single most important part of his 
teaching.
>  It is considered going to the home of all knowldedge and all the 
laws
> of nature.  It is going to the highest first.  It is watering the 
root
> so you can enjoy the fruit.  It is pulling back the bow so you can 
let
> the arrow of activity fly.  It is the rest before activity. It is
> capturing the fort so you can enjoy all the silver and gold mines.  
> 
> Come on Spraig help me out here.  You are a sharp guy.  What are you
> talking about?  MMY considers transcending "Valuable".

Perhaps you meant the *process* of transcending
rather than what you wrote, the *experience* of
transcending.



> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Come on Spraig, don't play with me.  
> > >
> >
> > I was beign perfectly serious. Your response is a fine example of
> how someone can
> > become a TM teacher and never "get" TM, apparently.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I enjoyed the experience of flying for the ten years I did 
it,
> and TM
> > > > > for 15 years.  Once I shifted my view of its value, I never
> desired
> > > > > the experience again.  I think the experience's value is 
not as
> > > > > "self-evident" as some claim.  Maybe the belief system has 
to
> support
> > > > > it. Otherwise it just seems odd, and not an experience I 
would
> seek
> > > > > out these days.  As far as it benefit, that I no longer 
buy. 
> I think
> > > > > it is sort of a mini epileptic fit.  Not too dangerous
> probably, but
> > > > > not the greatest experience ever.   I don't see people who
> have kept
> > > > > it up as special in any way I can detect.  By now it really 
should
> > > > > have produced more of the claimed benefits in people 
practicing so
> > > > > long.  In the old days we would joke that without TM a 
person
> might be
> > > > > even worse!  That claim is getting hollower and hollower 
each
> decade.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is 
also very
> > > > > overrated as a valuable experience.  
> > > >
> > > > Who rates it as valueable? Certainly not MMY.
> > > >
> > > > Relaxation seems necessary in my
> > > > > life in much smaller doses now that I don't do a program.  
The
> biggest
> > > > > wellbeing booster for me is exercise.  That experience seems
> to give
> > > > > me all the mental clarity I was seeking with TM with the 
added
> benefit
> > > > > of giving me much more energy.  All that eyes closed time 
of the
> > > > > program seems to sap people's energy despite the claims.  I
> don't hang
> > > > > out with anyone who needs a nap in the afternoon. (anyone 
with
> kids
> > > > > excluded!) It is just something that people get used to I
> think. It
> > > > > took me a few days to get over the need for program, then I
> just never
> > > > > considered the need for more rest after sleeping, or in the
> afternoon.
> > > > >  There are too many activities that give me joy and help me
> grow.  I
> > > > > have become the busy businessman of the checking notes and
> wouldn't
> > > > > have it any other way!
> > > > >
> > > > > I always knew that most people drop TM after practicing it. 
> At the DC
> > > > > center we got a big wake-up call when we tried to contact 
the
> 10,000
> > > > > people who had been initiated at the center.  I don't 
remember the
> > > > > numbers but it shocked us at the time.  How could so many
> people drop
> > > > > the practice if transcending was all that?
> > > >
> > > > Who told you it was?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>







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