--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Both you guys need to either get out more often or you
> need to get laid. I'm not sure which one it is.

Why not get out *and* get laid? It's summer. :-)
 
> --- peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > You avoided the question directed at you.
> > 
> > This makes you either a chicken, a moron or an
> > asshole..
> > 
> > Make your pick - and do feel free to spread your
> > totalitarian manure
> > elsewhere in the future.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig"
> > <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "peterklutz"
> > <peterklutz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig"
> > <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You log in with an anonymous IP AFTER being
> > banned from making
> > > > edits, and do full-
> > > > > scale reverts. Lame.
> > > > > 
> > > > > BTW do you always refer to yourself in the 3rd
> > person? I know a few
> > > > enlightened types do 
> > > > > that on occasion but you're sure not coming
> > accross that way.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected],
> > "peterklutz" <peterklutz@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected],
> > "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know Peter Klutz personally?
> > He's engaging in
> > non-stop
> > > > > > vandalism on 
> > > > > > > wikipedia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I do (I think).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Before the propaganda by wikipeda et al
> > makes you fully
> > brainwashed,
> > > > > > here'sa recap followed by some assorted
> > comments:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (1) PK started out like he supposed most
> > other people start with
> > > > > > making contributions at WP, with the
> > innocent joy of creating
> > > > > > something only a newbie can muster. He was
> > immediatelly
> > attacked by
> > > > > > numerous accounts accusing him of vandalism
> > and violations of
> > whatever
> > > > > > "rules" exist at wikipedia.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It would take PK a month or so to realize
> > that he had skipped
> > right
> > > > > > into a carefully moulded minefield.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Because this is what WP apparently has
> > petrified into:
> > controversial
> > > > > > articles have been appropriated by clicques
> > of people who scream
> > > > > > bloody murder and throw the V word at anyone
> > who thinks he or
> > she can
> > > > > > contribute, whilst ingratiating themselves
> > with admins.        
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > True to his nature (but unfortunatelly still
> > too innocent for this
> > > > > > world) PK became pissed off at these attacks
> > and held his
> > ground. His
> > > > > > greatest mistake, however, was to take the
> > allegations against
> > TM and
> > > > > > MMY at face value and investigate the
> > sources. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When this was done - and it was apparent
> > that the TM and MMY
> > articels
> > > > > > have been kidnapped by entities dedicatedly
> > hostile to TM etc - he
> > > > > > said so.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The rest, as it is said, is history.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (2) Instead of caving in to the constant
> > barrage of allegations
> > > > > > against PK, sparaig, take a couple of steps
> > back and review the
> > > > > > situation. Here are a few suggestions:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > a. compare Mr Skolnicks interpretation of
> > wikipedia rules with the
> > > > > > rules themselves. When you do this, you're
> > actually going to learn
> > > > > > that what S is trying to portray as rules
> > are in fact more like
> > > > > > guidelines - guidelines found on pages that
> > can actually be
> > edited and
> > > > > > thus changed by anyone. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Perhaps more surprisingly, you will also
> > come across the word
> > "bold",
> > > > > > which is how Mr Jimbo Wales, want's your
> > contributions to be
> > like (and
> > > > > > there's a backdrop to my questions to
> > Bishonento what'sgone
> > wrong with
> > > > > > WP - duly deleted by S).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > b. compare PK's NPA violations with S
> > violations or even those
> > of some
> > > > > > of the admins. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > c. PK's view on what's going on at WP is
> > that it is a social
> > > > > > experiement gone terrbiely wrong: S and his
> > admins has rapidly
> > formed
> > > > > > a secterian-minded group based on hate
> > toward outsiders (in
> > this case
> > > > > > people they label TMers) where relations are
> > now so tight that
> > S feel
> > > > > > comfortable enough to publicly joke about
> > his gratitude of the
> > admins
> > > > > > at WP for their willingess to enroll in S's
> > personal axis of
> > evil of
> > > > > > Jewish-Christian fundamentalism.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > PK's take on the situation is that the
> > phenomenon is akin to how
> > > > > > people a few hundred years ago worked up a
> > frenzy in order to
> > be able
> > > > > > to torch witches at the stake. I say this
> > half-jokiugly, but the
> > > > > > discrepancy between PK's contributions per
> > se and how they are
> > > > > > described by S adn assorted WP admins has to
> > be seen to be
> > believed.
> > > > > > So has the bile produced at WP over it all.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > d. Finally, how many people actually read
> > the TM and MMY
> > articles at
> > > > > > WP? I'd be surprised if anyone outside a
> > circle made up of
> > yourself,
> > > > > > Bishonen and other WP admins - and S - do
> > this.   
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Never mind the mosquitoues - shoot the
> > tiger."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why engage in pointless communications with
> > the mosquitoes of this
> > > > > > world, when you can go to DC or FF? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > PK
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Who appointed Andrew Skolnick and wikipedia the
> > arbitrators of free
> > > > speech?
> > > 
> > > The owner of Wikipedia controls wikipedia, and
> > people who play by
> > his rules get to 
> > > continue playing. BTW, while Skolnick usually
> > knows how to play the
> > game well enough to 
> > > slip in his POV, in the long run, he gets
> > corrected. 
> === message truncated ===
> 
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