--- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Greek form Palaistinêi from which English "Palestine" is 
> ultimately derived, was first used in the 5th century BCE by 
> Herodotus who wrote of the "district of Syria, called 
Palaistinêi". 
> The boundaries of the area he referred to were not explicitly 
> stated, but Josephus used the name only for Philistia. Ptolemy 
also 
> used the term. In Latin, Pliny wrote of a region of Syria that 
> was "formerly called Palaestina" when describing the eastern coast 
> of the Mediterranean.
> 
> Roman times
> As a result of the First Jewish-Roman War (66–73), Titus sacked 
> Jerusalem and destroyed the Second Temple, leaving only the 
Western 
> Wall. In 135, following the fall of a Jewish revolt led by Bar 
> Kokhba in 132–135, the Roman emperor Hadrian expelled most Jews 
from 
> Judea, leaving large Jewish populations in Samaria and the 
Galilee. 
> He also changed the name of the Roman province of Judea (Israel) 
to 
> Syria Palaestina named after the Philistines as an insult to the 
now 
> conquered Jews. In what was considered a form of psychological 
> warfare, the Romans also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to 
> Aelia Capitolina, but that had less staying power. Over time the 
> name Syria Palaestina was shortened to Palaestina, which by then 
had 
> become an administrative political unit within the Roman Empire.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#History
> 
> OffWorld
>

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There are people who deny that Nazi Germany killed millions of Jews -
- the claim that there never was a Palestine is on a moral and 
intellectual par, by people who think that this big lie makes the 
Zionist land grab an OK thing. 

The victors of WWII forced Israel on the Arab world at a time when 
those countries were weak, poor, and disorganized -- sooner or later
the Arab peoples will be organized enough to reassert control over 
Palestine, no matter how much blood and money the U.S. and Israel 
are willing to spend. 

Zionism is really just trying to put the toothpaste back in the 
tube, and it ain't gonna work. Europeans took over North America 
primarily because disease killed 90% of the indigenous population, 
but Israel's 5 million Jews are vastly outnumbered  and that math is 
never going to change in Israel's favor. It's entirely 
understandable that the Jews of Europe would seek a place where Jews 
could live without pogroms, but Israel is not that place and never 
will be. If humans were capable of reason (and of course they are 
not, the situation is hopeless until human consciousness is more 
expanded), then another homeland for the Jews would be found, 
instead of a place that will be a super-pogrom for them and their  
neighbors.






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