Barry shows us still more of his remarkable ability
to fantasize...

--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002"
> <markmeredith@> wrote:
> >
> > The options Judy lays out is that everyone must either accept 
> > MMY's claim that he is a "great rishi" and an authentic yogi 
> > and address him such or they're being disrepectful of him.  
> > To simply not view him as a great rishi, which according the 
> > spiritual texts I've read is quite an exclusive title, without 
> > any disrespect is not an option.  This is a version of "if 
> > you're not with us, you're against us".  It's the common 
> > attitude of authoritarian communities.  
> 
> That's a little harsh, Mark.

And factually incorrect.

 After all, these are certified
> "anti-TMers" Judy is talking about who refer to MMY that 
> way. We know this is true because she said it.

Well, no, I didn't say that, actually.  Some are, some
aren't.  (Some anti-TMers refer to him as "Mahesh," some
don't, for that matter.  Have you ever seen Barry calling
him "Mahesh"?)

> It would only be "authoritarian" if these were real human
> beings, with feelings, who deserve respect. But since that
> is clearly not the case, those who know the Truth are
> entitled to treat them with disrespect when they treat
> MMY with disrespect by referring to him by his given name

No, when they hypocritically pretend it's not
disrespectful to do so.

<snip>
> > I'm not sure this is a big deal or not.  The white house 
> > makes sure the media refer to bush's estate in texas as 
> > a "ranch" even though there's absolutely nothing ranchy 
> > going on there.  This is to reinforce his image as an 
> > average joe in the minds of the electorate.
> 
> That is *exactly* the reason that the apologists...uh, 
> sorry...Upholders Of Natural Law get so uptight about 
> this. The "ranch" is FICTION. Calling Mahesh a rishi,
> much less a Maharishi, is FICTION. Those who have bought
> into this fiction for decades get really, really uptight
> when someone points out that they've believed a FICTION
> for all those years, especially when they themselves know 
> it's true. So to keep from dealing with their own gulli-
> bility, they lash out.
> 
> That's what I honestly think is going on.

And as usual you got it completely wrong, at least
where I'm concerned, just as you did in your previous
post on this.

Nowhere have I suggested that those who don't respect
Maharishi don't have a perfect right to express that
disrespect.

My *only* point here is that they shouldn't pretend
they're not being disrespectful by referring to him
as "Mahesh."

<snip>
> But...but...but...but...doncha see that BY DEFINITION if
> their "current understanding" of him is that he doesn't
> deserve the fictional title of Maharishi, such a person
> is automatically an Official Anti-TMer?

Wrong again...

> Such a position is WRONG

...and wrong again.

My beef here is with *hypocrisy*, not with
disrespecting Maharishi.






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