--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- shempmcgurk <shempmcgurk@> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > snip > > > > > > > > Plus, I think that everyone senses that this > > > > may be the last of them. Maharishi isn't going > > > > to live forever, and when he goes, I have not > > > > seen any indication that *anyone* else within the > > > > TM movement could inspire more than a handful > > > > of people to come to a course. They could plead > > > > and cry and beg and claim that the world is going > > > > to end if people don't come, and everyone would > > > > ignore them, because they just don't have the > > > > chops to pull that sort of thing off. Not one > > > > of them. As I've said in another context recently, > > > > not one of them has done anything to *deserve* > > > > such faith or to inspire the necessary suspension > > > > of disbelief. And not one of them is likely to > > > > in any of our lifetimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > As I read your post, two personalities came to mind: > > > > > > 1) Muktananda. Replaced by his "dual" chosen > > > successors -- a > > > brother and sister -- there was almost immediately a > > > huge fight > > > between the two of them, with the sister winning > > > out. That, along > > > with the fact that neither of them possessed the > > > charisma of > > > Muktananda, meant that their organisation is today > > > but a glimmer of > > > what it was during Muktananda's hayday. Of course > > > there's also > > > the "sexual revelation" factor as well: that is, the > > > revelations > > > about sex that came up in a big way after his death > > > also contributed > > > to the loss of popularity of their movement. > > > > > > So this is an interesting model for what may befall > > > the TMO after > > > MMY dies: we on this forum know that sexual > > > revelations will be > > > coming out,just as they did with Muktananda. The > > > difference is that > > > Muktananda allegedly had relations with young girls > > > and MMY's > > > alleged dalliances were with fully formed females > > > (i.e. 18 years > > > plus). > > > > > > But the other similar factor is the "charisma > > > factor". As you point > > > out, who on the horizon has the same degree of > > > charisma? > > > > As I've mentioned before, I think TM people will > > "join" SSRS in droves after MMY drops the body. > > > > I think you've got something there. > > Sadly, the current TMO and the people involved in it are, by > necessity, guru-followers (if they weren't they would have, by > necessity of logic and rationality, left long ago). Without the > guru figure in MMY, they will seek another out and I don't think a > Nader Raam with a crown on his head and his weight in gold or a > Bevan or a John makes it in that category for thoe type of folks.
I'm not ready to write King Tony off. MMY clearly appointed him to be his successor, and for a while, at least, he probably gets a honeymoon with the guru- followers because they're going to view Nader as they were told to do by MMY, as the new leader of the TMO. Whether that will *last* depends on whether Nader has been hiding his light under a bushel, waiting for MMY to be gone. From what little I've seen of him, I wouldn't be surprised if he turns up the wattage after MMY dies and proves to be plenty charismatic in his own right. On the other hand, I won't be surprised if he doesn't, either. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/zAINmC/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
