--- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For the second time today I find myself compelled to write my support 
> for something that Vaj has said.
> Tat Wale Baba was not only a neighbour of MMY, but was then actually 
> the closest neighbour to Maharishi Ashram, living as he did in a cave 
> just across the way. From what can be gathered from Swami Shankar Das 
> (a disciple of Tat Wale Baba who maintains the cave) it was another 
> neighbour that actually shot Tat Wale Baba in December 1974.  link:- 
> http://www.yogiphotos.com/chap4a.html
> 
> 

Ah, so Tat Wale Babba was just being politically correct?

> 
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:41 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:41 AM, authfriend wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jul 26, 2006, at 12:55 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>> <snip>
> > >>>
> > >>>>> Perhaps you should just refer to Maharishi as His Holiness as 
> you
> > >>>>> do the Dalai Lama, since you are using equivalent terms 
> anyway. Or
> > >>>>> continue to refer to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as Lord Shiva or 
> Lord
> > >>>>> Indra. Your choice...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In the case of the Dalai Lama, this name is conferred based on
> > >>>> accomplishment and conferred by living Buddhas. It has a 
> specific
> > >>>> meaning.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> FWIW, it's fairly common for Indian teachers to refer
> > >>> to their own masters as "His Holiness."
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> In the case of Mahesh, "Maharishi" is an assumed name, as
> > >>>> is "yogi".  These were never conferred by the Shankaracharya
> > >>>> tradition he originally came from, nor are they indicative of
> > >>>> accomplishment.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> What tradition conferred the title "Maharshi" on
> > >>> Ramana Maharshi?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> A saint, a muni IIRC.
> > >>
> > >
> > > And Tatewalle Baba used to speak at MMY's ahsram. Matanada Mayi  
> > > used to visit him.
> > > MMY's "pet" Shankaracharya was the one who presided over the 
> 1957  
> > > celebration of
> > > Gurudev's birthday and HE acknowledged the title.
> > 
> > 
> > Big deal, they were neighbors. In what way did he acknowledge the  
> > title? In any event it was long before Mahesh showed his true 
> colors.  
> > Ceremonies in general tend to be sancuaries for respect and  
> > tolerance, it's no indication of what he *really* though--unless 
> you  
> > have a letter or something.
> > 
> > Currently the only people who seem to respect him in India are the  
> > pundits he pays for, according to a leading scholar and meditation  
> > expert.
> >
>







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