--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:41 AM, authfriend wrote:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > What tradition conferred the title "Maharshi" on
> > > > > > > Ramana Maharshi?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A saint, a muni IIRC.
> > > > >
> > > > > I asked what *tradition* conferred the title.
> > > > 
> > > > No tradition or commitee.
> > > 
> > > Hey, Michael, good to see you.  Thanks for the info.
> > > 
> > > So we don't know who may first have used the
> > > title "Maharishi" for MMY, but apparently the
> > > fact that it wasn't officially conferred by
> > > representatives of a tradition doesn't somehow
> > > make it bogus, as some have been claiming here.
> > 
> > M said that people started to call him like this in the early days
> > in Kerala, and that newspapers picked it up. I don't think there is 
> > a commitee which can confer such titles afaik These are honorary 
> > names, they aren't fixed titles conferred by anyone. About any 
> > Sadhu is called Maharaj in India,or Saint, anybody can be called 
> > Swami, just as a gesture of reference.
> 
> Really?  That isn't what Osho suggests.  He claims MMY
> could not use "Swami" and called himself "Maharishi" in
> an attempt to make up for it.

Swami is a different case, as it is used both ways, 1)very loose, just
as a nice address even to your rikshaw driver, and 2) its also a
traditional title with very clear restrictions, which can only be
confered to someone by another Swami of the same tradition. For
Maharaj or Maharishi 2) doesn't apply.






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