--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > on the lie that Israel did not deliberately target the UN:
> > > 
> > > It seems to me *vanisingly* unlikely that Israel
> > > deliberately targeted the U.N. observers.  My guess
> > > is that it simply ignored the pleas from the observers
> > > because of the perceived need to kill the Hezbollah
> > > fighters in the vicinity.
> > > 
> > > Not that this justifies the tragedy...
> > 
> > Either way, it shows a major issue with how Israel is conducting
> > the campaign.
> 
> Yes, it does indeed.  But if they're accused of
> deliberately targeting the observers, they can
> pretty convincingly deny it, because it wouldn't
> make any sense.
> 
> In other words, it's important to make the right
> criticism, or it won't stick.
>

Based on the other URL that was provided, the question arises: WERE there any 
fighters in 
the area? Israel may be acting to destroy Lebanon's infrastructure directly 
simply to deny 
its use to Hizbollah, and using "we're targeting Hizbollah strongholds" as an 
excuse. And 
in THAT context, targetting the UN observers certainly makes sense, because you 
don't 
want neutral observers to be able to say "now, wait a minute, we're just a few 
minutes 
away from that area, and there's no terrorist enclave..."

Remember: this is the country that denounces terrorist acts by its enemies 
while praising 
the actions of "heros" who committed the very same actions against others, 
while 
defending them as "having no choice"--specifically, when the Irgun kidnapped 
several 
British soldiers and threatened to kill them if the Brits didn't free Jewish 
prisoners, the 
Irgun "had no choice" but to kill the prisoners when the Brits didn't comply, 
and in fact, 
they did, by hanging them.

The Irgun was officially disbanded when Israel was formed, but the entire Irgun 
(aside 
from the most extremely violent, who were conveniently killed when their ship 
was 
accidentally sunk, IIRC) was incorporated into the IDF, and a goodly number of 
prime 
ministers and other high-ranking Israeli officials were high-ranking in the 
Irgun, and were 
either responsible for, or co-enablers of the very actions that led to the 
coining of the 
word "terrorist."

I sympathize with the civilians caught in the crossfire between the ideological 
zealots, but I 
do NOT sympathize with the chest-beating of the Israeli government. Everyone 
has known 
for years that Hizbollah was at least as powerful as the Lebanese government if 
not 
considerably more-so, so to put the blame on the Lebanese government (as Israel 
and the 
US does) and require THEM to clean up Hizbollah's act, is blatant 
propoganda--it is 
impossible for the Lebanese government to do so, and Israel and the USA and 
everyone 
else knows this.







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