--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  
> In a message dated 7/30/06 5:07:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> With the  economic clout and diplomatic reach of the US, there are 
a 
> huge amount of  alternatives to using nuclear weapons, or even 
> conventional  weapons.
> 
> I heard a great talk yesterday between Tim Russert and Thomas  
> Friedman, in which Friedman was making the point that Libya 
> abandoned  its nuclear weapons program not because of the US 
invasion 
> of Iraq, but  because behind the scenes we provided them with a 
> security assurance that  if they stopped pursuing that [nuclear 
> weapons] direction, we promised not  to attack them.
> 
> 
> 
> Iran has been offered and continues to be offered all kinds of 
deals like  
> that, but they refuse them. They insist having nukes is their  
right.
>
Could be. 

I just can't paint their geopolitical reality as black and white 
though. Imagine watching Bush go after your neighbor, one that the 
US supported against you in a war. Bush going after your neighbor, 
unprovoked. 

I think what the current leader of Iran says in terms of rhetoric to 
rally his political base (hmmmm...sounds familiar...), and the 
desire for nukes are two separate desires of Iran's. The desire for 
nukes I see as a lot more defensive and widely supported than the 
statements the leader makes as anti-Israel.

Just as I saw with the Soviet Union and China when they were our 
enemies, any country that we declare as an enemy are scared to death 
of us, which we then conveniently misinterpret as offensiveness on  
their part. 

We spend more on weaponry than the next 25 war budgets combined. 
Every other country that is not our ally is going to do everything 
they can to appear as big a risk as possible to any thought of 
invasion from us. Hence the mad dash to get nukes. After all, what 
our reaction has thus far shown is that if you have nukes, we won't 
bother you.






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