Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick, please send this info to the Fairfield Ledger

[Vaj]

On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:48 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:38 PM, sparaig wrote: It's the dfference between relative and absolute, played out   neurologically within the brain. OR, the experience of this within the brain, leads one to describe   the world in these terms. Either way, its radically different than the high concentration   Buddhist meditation findings that Vaj likes to tout here. Actually Vaj has never "touted" any meditation technique here that   uses "high concentration". As Dana Sawyer pointed out in some   previous quotes shared here: meditators using these techniques are   able to transcend easier, longer and more frequently. Dana does EEG/fMRI research on meditators? Not that I'm aware of. Why should he? Experientially it's very easy to see the difference.  This is   accomplished by teaching students to find their own unique balance   between subtle effort and no effort. Eventually meditation become   totally (and truly) effortless: one sits, decides how long, and   simply goes into samadhi/shamatha for the entire session! Once one   can sustain transcendence for longer periods of time (IME over about   10 minutes) one can also decide to practice non-dual forms of   meditation, which unlike what you describe where the senses disengage   from objects and withdraw (or "retire"/transcend) and separate inner   and outer into a dualistic divide--one can instead cultivate unity   consciousness and work with methods which leave the senses "open".   And this is the natural sequence in learning meditation: going from   meditation requiring "supports" (e.g. a mantra) to no support. Where's the research? None was necessary, although there's research out there for those who need that crutch. The direct experience is the important thing.  __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___