--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <groups@> wrote: > > > > > > on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Why should that be a problem with anyone ? If it is true. > > > > Maharishi is a > > > > master, but I have no problem whatsover with the idea that he > > might > > > > have been active in that area. > > > > > > > > The only people I think could get angry is the americans > > > > who have such a huge problem with sexuality. Look what they > did to > > > > Clinton just because he was having some fun. > > > > The french President Mitterand > > > > had a mistress and a daughter. Everyone new that, but did the > > french > > > > care ? No. > > > > > > > Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base > his > > > reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers > > > to adopt that lifestyle? > > > > I'd still be interested to see documentation of > > MMY having made this claim explicitly. > > > > I'm not at all sure where you get the idea that his > > reputation was based on large part on a claim to be a > > life celibate. In what way was it based on this > > claim? I never was led to believe it was anything > > but incidental. > > > > I don't recall the point ever having been mentioned > > by TM teachers unless somebody asked whether MMY was > > celibate. And the response was always followed by > > what was said to be MMY's insistence that celibacy was > > a calling, not a discipline to be followed for its own > > sake, especially not if it ran contrary to one's > > inclinations. A big deal was never made of it. > > Agreed. But to gain enlightenment is faster if you are a celibate, > and that is why Maharishi gently suggested it is good idea not to > have sex, " to make an agreement with the body". > At least for a period of time. Once CC is reached I'm not sure > whether it is necessary.
Again, it was always stressed, in my experience, that celibacy was a *calling*, not a discipline. "Agreement with the body" actually conveys that idea: if your body wants to have sex, no such agreement can be made. I don't mean to suggest that celibacy might not facilitate enlightenment, at least on certain paths; but I strongly suspect fighting with your body to stay celibate for that purpose is actually counterproductive to enlightenment. It always sounded to me more like, If you can comfortably take or leave sex, leaving it is an advantage when you're pursuing enlightenment; you don't have to indulge in sex just because it's considered "normal." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/