--- rmy108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me
> that if he were 
> really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud
> enough of that 
> fact to use it to his advantage.  MMY is world
> famous, as is TM.  By 
> mentioning that, it would give him credibility in
> some people's 
> mind.

I don't think it really would. I don't think that the
TMO and MMY have the best image in the world and there
are many people who are now getting involved in
spiritual pursuits that have never heard of MMY or TM.



  But besides that, it is traditional in India
> to always ,at 
> least mention your master.  Look at how MMY always
> does that.
> It seems that there is an assumption among SSRS
> teachers that he has 
> a positive relationship with MMY, but yet mothing
> official has ever 
> been said.  I think this could be a belief system
> among his followers 
> (especially TM people who are with him), so they
> don't have to deal 
> with the conflict of, what if he is, in fact, not
> approved of by MMY?

I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might
have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the
above to lessen the dissonance. But the relationship
between MMY and SSRS is something between them. What
MMY says about SSRS publically is one thing and what
he says about him privately is another. By the way, I
always thought that MMY's comment about SSRS,
"Meditators should watch out for sugar-coated poison."
was quite the compliment. This is one of those
"guru-speak" things. I say this because of my direct
experiences with MMY as "Blazing Brahman" and my
direct experiences with SSRS as "Blazing Brahman." MMY
couldn't say something negative about SSRS if he
tried. How could he? MMY "made" SSRS just like Guru
Dev "made" MMY. Someone like MMY, and SSRS for that
matter, use everything to facilitate realization in
those who have a relationship with them. MMY and SSRS
are just two faces of Brahman. Brahman has lots of
shiny, bright, glowing faces and its own amazing
dharma of Self-Realization.



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