Fine post.  Thanks.
**

--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <groups@> wrote:
> >
> > on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at babajii_99@ wrote:
> > > 
> > > And, besides, what is the motive in this;
> > > What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything
> > > negative towards Guru Dev?
> > > What would be the motivation for Maharishi go get involved with any
> > > woman, in a secret way?
> > > Both of these things seem so out of character to me;
> > > I just write them off as complete and total nonesense.
> > > 
> > As did I for decades. In fact, I still write the murder thing off as 
> total
> > nonsense. I only have ³evidence² (the testimony of two of the women 
> and the
> > accounts of numerous secretaries) for the sex thing.
> >
> 
> Here's what I think happened with the murder thing...and I'll explain 
> it with an anecdote from my own family.
> 
> When my father had his stroke and then about 10 days later died, I 
> related the whole episode to a friend of mine.  When my Dad got sick 
> it co-incidentally co-incided with a visit to him from out of the blue
> by my brother.  Now, my Dad loved my brother as he did all his 
> children but my brother is a bit of a disheveled hippy type who has a 
> corresponding "anti-establishment" attitude, shall we say.  Suffice it 
> to say that his presence often made my Dad feel slightly off-kilter 
> and perhaps his blood pressure would be up a bit when my brother was 
> around him.  And my friend was familiar with this family dynamic very 
> well.
> 
> So as I told my friend that my brother's visit co-incided with my 
> father getting his stroke, my friend's immediate comment was: "Oh, 
> your brother killed your father!"  And, of course, he didn't mean it 
> exactly...he meant it as a joke...but in that joke was the slightest 
> kernal of truth.
> 
> Perhaps my brother's presence set off my Dad's stroke -- one that he 
> was going to have anyway -- by a day or two.  Who knows?  But my 
> friend and I had a big laugh over the whole thing because as 
> rediculous as it sounded, there was 1% of 1% of 1% of a kernal of 
> truth in it.
> 
> Same with the Guru Dev story.  As it has been related here, apparently 
> when Guru Dev got sick, there were two schools of thought as to how to 
> treat him: keep him where he was or move him.  MMY was of the school 
> of thought to move him, this plan of action won over, and then Guru 
> Dev died.
> 
> I can only assume that there were dozens of devotees who loved and 
> cared for Guru Dev and that they all, including MMY, had his best 
> interests at heart. And the decision how to treat him must have been 
> taken very gravely and seriously by all concerned.  So when the 
> decision of YOUR camp doesn't prevail then I can imagine that in such 
> an emotionally-charged atmosphere, anger and frustration is 
> experienced by those whose way was not chosen.
> 
> And then to throw into the mix the fact that Guru Dev died, well, of 
> course, all sorts of accusations get thrown about:  so, in a sense -- 
> just like with my brother -- MMY was responsible for Guru Dev's death 
> because, after all, it was his decision to move him and there must be 
> a correlation between moving him and him dying.  It is human nature to 
> try and get a logical explanation why horrible things happen...and the 
> death of one's beloved guru is a horrible but yet irrational occurance.
> 
> Just like there's a correlation between my brother showing up at my 
> Dad's house on the very night he got his fatal stroke (by the way, my 
> Dad was 85...and I think Guru Dev was 84).
>







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