--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's > demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if > this was, indeed, the case. It is very much like the death of Diana, > Princess of Wales, or JFK. There are some loose ends, or the > appearance of loose ends and, as I suspect most everyone knows, it is > very difficult not to pick at a loose end. > > Perhaps, when Mahesh expires, many stories will emerge from the > woodwork that will be astonishing and difficult to rationalize away.
The story I heard about Guru Dev's death; Was that Maharishi, was so overwhelmed, during his funeral; And when his ashes were in the Ganges River; That Maharishi dove into the water; And didn't come up for quite a while, And so thought, he might have drown... So, from this story, I see Maharishi as being the most emotional one; At the time... And still the most emotional one towards Guru Dev; And he gives all the credit for his teaching to: Guru Dev. I happen to think that God is in charge of when a person dies, and when a person is born; in conjunction with the soul. The only reason for such an attack on Maharishi; That I can see: 'When one attains any kind of power and money in this world... It brings along with it, many people who are jealous and envious of that power, and will do anything in response to their inferior feelings, and intentions. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > <reavismarek@> wrote: > > > > Fine post. Thanks. > > ** > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <groups@> wrote: > > > > > > > > on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at babajii_99@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > And, besides, what is the motive in this; > > > > > What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything > > > > > negative towards Guru Dev? > > > > > What would be the motivation for Maharishi go get involved > with any > > > > > woman, in a secret way? > > > > > Both of these things seem so out of character to me; > > > > > I just write them off as complete and total nonesense. > > > > > > > > > As did I for decades. In fact, I still write the murder thing > off as > > > total > > > > nonsense. I only have ³evidence² (the testimony of two of the > women > > > and the > > > > accounts of numerous secretaries) for the sex thing. > > > > > > > > > > Here's what I think happened with the murder thing...and I'll > explain > > > it with an anecdote from my own family. > > > > > > When my father had his stroke and then about 10 days later died, > I > > > related the whole episode to a friend of mine. When my Dad got > sick > > > it co-incidentally co-incided with a visit to him from out of the > blue > > > by my brother. Now, my Dad loved my brother as he did all his > > > children but my brother is a bit of a disheveled hippy type who > has a > > > corresponding "anti-establishment" attitude, shall we say. > Suffice it > > > to say that his presence often made my Dad feel slightly off- > kilter > > > and perhaps his blood pressure would be up a bit when my brother > was > > > around him. And my friend was familiar with this family dynamic > very > > > well. > > > > > > So as I told my friend that my brother's visit co-incided with my > > > father getting his stroke, my friend's immediate comment > was: "Oh, > > > your brother killed your father!" And, of course, he didn't mean > it > > > exactly...he meant it as a joke...but in that joke was the > slightest > > > kernal of truth. > > > > > > Perhaps my brother's presence set off my Dad's stroke -- one that > he > > > was going to have anyway -- by a day or two. Who knows? But my > > > friend and I had a big laugh over the whole thing because as > > > rediculous as it sounded, there was 1% of 1% of 1% of a kernal of > > > truth in it. > > > > > > Same with the Guru Dev story. As it has been related here, > apparently > > > when Guru Dev got sick, there were two schools of thought as to > how to > > > treat him: keep him where he was or move him. MMY was of the > school > > > of thought to move him, this plan of action won over, and then > Guru > > > Dev died. > > > > > > I can only assume that there were dozens of devotees who loved > and > > > cared for Guru Dev and that they all, including MMY, had his best > > > interests at heart. And the decision how to treat him must have > been > > > taken very gravely and seriously by all concerned. So when the > > > decision of YOUR camp doesn't prevail then I can imagine that in > such > > > an emotionally-charged atmosphere, anger and frustration is > > > experienced by those whose way was not chosen. > > > > > > And then to throw into the mix the fact that Guru Dev died, well, > of > > > course, all sorts of accusations get thrown about: so, in a > sense -- > > > just like with my brother -- MMY was responsible for Guru Dev's > death > > > because, after all, it was his decision to move him and there > must be > > > a correlation between moving him and him dying. It is human > nature to > > > try and get a logical explanation why horrible things > happen...and the > > > death of one's beloved guru is a horrible but yet irrational > occurance. > > > > > > Just like there's a correlation between my brother showing up at > my > > > Dad's house on the very night he got his fatal stroke (by the > way, my > > > Dad was 85...and I think Guru Dev was 84). > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/