On Aug 6, 2006, at 3:29 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:12 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


"Really has a lot to do with not knowing what you're doing and 

using

people as guinea pigs.


In traditional yogic flying, the entire first stage is from a

standing, bent-knee position and done as a step/jump kinda thing.

Instead of injuring one, it builds strength, stamina and numeorus

yogic benefits."


Very interesting.  It sounds more like martial arts movements.


It's combined with a style of yogic running. In many old Tibetan  

biographies--of course this was before telegraph, radio or 

telephone-- 

the Tibetan kings used yogic runners/flyers to dispatch messages.  

There are contemporary accounts of witnesses who've seen these 

yogis,  

called "lung gompas": "air yogis".


The training does resemble, in some aspects, martial arts 

training,  

where moving asanas are linked to breathing and visualization.



Lung-gom-pa Runners of Tibet


The Marathon monks of Japan are quite similar to the Lung-gom-pa  

runners of old Tibet. There have been many records kept of these  

amazing running monks who appear to fly when they run. Across 

grassy  

plains, they seem to float apparently in a trance. They are said 

to  

travel nonstop for forty-eight hours or more and can cover more 

than  

200 miles a day. Many are said to be faster than horses and at 

times  

they were used to convey messages across a country.


In order to qualify as a lung-gom-pa runner, the trainee must 

first  

learn to master seated meditation. They had lots of emphasis on  

breath control and visualization techniques. They had to be able 

to  

imagine their own bodies as being light as a feather.


Other techniques they had to master required them to watch a 

single  

star in the sky intently for days, never allowing themselves to 

be  

distracted. When they have attained this ability of moving  

meditation, they are able to fly like the wind.


The term "lung-gom" is used for the kind of training that 

develops  

uncommon nimbleness and gives them the ability to make  

extraordinarily long tramps with amazing rapidity. They run at a  

rapid pace without ever having to stop for days. They do not run  

short, quick races but have the ability to go far distances in a  

quick amount of time.


"The Way of the White Clouds" by Lama Anagarika Govinda explains 

that  

the word Lung, pronounced rlun, signifies the state of air as well 

as  

vital energy or psychic force. Gom means meditation, 

contemplation,  

concentration of mind and soul upon a certain subject. It has to 

do  

with the emptying of one's mind of all subject-object 

relationships.  

This means that a lung-gom-pa runner is not a man who has the 

ability  

to fly through air, but one who can control his energy, re-

channel  

and concentrate it in a new direction. These lung-gom-pa runners  

follow the ancient practice of pranayama. They follow the idea of  

completely anonymity and therefore no one is allowed to talk to 

them  

or see any part of their bodies.



This sounds like an interesting technique, but has nothing to do 

with the flying technique from Patanjali.


Actually the lineal method of Patanjali and this are similar in the key points. Mahesh's "technique" (the TMSP) is actually the variant. Much of the technique is *not* in the text of Patanjali or the commentaries; they are taught orally and use other texts. Unless one has a teacher skilled in these matters, one would miss it completely, because it's simply not there.

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