--- In [email protected], "mathatbrahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], gerbal88 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > > Hi, Bill -- TM is based on two profoundly subtle deceptions, > that > > > > > the mantra and the method of using the mantra enables one to > > > > > experience the absolute or source of thought. > > > > > > > > (Note that gerbal never goes on to explain why > > > > he says "the mantra enables one to experience the > > > > absolute or source of thought." > > > > > > Should be: "why he says 'the mantra enables one to > > > experience the absolute or source of thought' *is a > > > deception*." > > > > > > > Of course, the latest research explains from a physiological point > of view, why > > "experience" and "transcendental consciousness" are a contradiction > in terms, but > > language no longer applies in this situation so this is inevitable. > > Right, "experience" and 'TC" are contradictory only in a > philosophical nit-picky sense. Zen Masters simply state that sitting > in meditation is conducive to Enlightenment, but don't dwell on > useless philosophical speculations on how one can attain That which > everything already is. > Such arguments are like trying to figure out typical paradoxes such > as having a card upon which is written on both sides: "The statement > on the other side of this card is false". It's a paradox. Leave it > at that. > > >
Well, the lateswt research suggests that there IS a fundamental difference between TC and experience in the usual sense. Almost ALL experiences, whether internal or raw sensory data, pass through the thalamus on the way to the rest of the brain for processing. If you reduce the activity of the thalamus, this changes things. Apparently, below a threshold of activity, we don't perceive internal/external experience at all. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
