--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <jyouells@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- jyouells2000 <jyouells@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > (mercy snip!)
> > > > > 
> > > > > You missed the point. If I consistantly lie, no one
> > > > > will trust me or
> > > > > believe what I say.   I believe you said, "And once
> > > > > you play fast and
> > > > > loose with the figures in a documentable way, no
> > > > > matter how trivial,it
> > > > > becomes very hard to beat your chest and say "I'm
> > > > > really honest THIS
> > > > > TIME, honest,"" That's why the response to the
> > > > > courses has been so
> > > > > weak. The "Everybody does it defense" proves my
> > > > > point. Even 'mostly
> > > > > free' isn't enough when the trust is gone. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > JohnY
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think that people are not going to this new
> > > > course because of lack of trust, but because they have
> > > > lives and commitments outside of the TMO. When I was
> > > > in my 20's, not married, and going to college I could
> > > > go off to any course I wanted too and I did. But now
> > > > in my 50's like many others, who can just leave their
> > > > life and go to Fairfield for a two month course?
> > > > 
> > >    Sure, there's that too. I guess the question is: If you 
could go,
> > > would you?  Is the purpose the Maharishi Effect, or satisfying a
> > > margin call? Or both? See what I mean about trust?
> > 
> > How about the individual's feeling that the ME might
> > help?  Or simply that the individual thinks the course
> > would be enjoyable?  Who cares whether it's a margin
> > call?  I'd go if I could.  "Trust" wouldn't enter into
> > it at all, for me.  I'd be going for my own purposes,
> > not the movement's.   There's not likely to be another
> > chance to go on that big a course with such an extended
> > program and so many other perks for so little money for
> > a good long time, if ever.
> 
> As an 'unrecertified' TM teacher my perspective is different. Trust 
> is a central issue, in a student-teacher-student relationship.
> (You're stating the 'It's no Big Deal' arguement... well sometimes.
> it is.)

No, I'm not stating that at all.  I'm saying that
if you really wanted to go, for whatever reason,
not going because of the "trust" issue seems like
cutting off your nose to spite your face *however*
big a deal the "trust" issue is.






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