I find JohnY's comment most odd. "..why would he be open to any experience of higher states that does not conform to the framework that he has laid down." I have sat with MMY and various CPs and heard literally 1000's of experiences. MMY has never said "oh, thats an experience that does not conform to my framework".
What he has done is clarify what experiences appear indicative of a particular state or another. And as John said, MMY "is not impressed with flash, or imagination." And not impressed with people labeling their experiences when the experience is not, in his experience, characteristic of the the label. And " Hasn't anyone noticed that many (if > not the majority of) people who have stabilized higher states move > away from the TMO?" I have noticed that people whose experiences do not correspond to attributes that MMY correlates with enlightenment, at times move on, and proclaim an enlightenment of their own devising and attributes. It may be a wonderful things -- but is it hard to understand that the TMO doesn't jump up and down at such? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
