"They are letting everyone in the dome--except LB." is exactly what I heard from my marginally on the program friends.
Sorry L.B. A lot of people still love you anyways! --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Responses interleaved. > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > " presence in the Dome would be "disruptive". > > > > Disruptive? " > > > > What is disrupted is Milieu Control. I'm sure everyone here is hip to > > that Lifton concept. http://www.freeminds.org/psych/lifton.htm > > ******** > > Nice link. I've seen lists of 20 or so cult charcteristics, but this one is both precise and > comprehensive. > > ******** > > > > Since so many quality people have bailed on letting them work their > > mojo, it seems like they are just acting out of habit. The movement > > seems to lack the ability to create a new organization that respects > > mature individuals with enough spiritual and life experience to decide > > things for themselves. It worked better when everyone was in their > > 20's and less self-assured. From the outside it is fascinating to see > > them try to cast the same old spells their a broken wands. > > ******** > > Yes, numerous people here have noted the contradiction inherent in treating aging, long- > term devotees as children and neophytes. Of course, there actually are a small number > who still prefer it that way. > > ******** > > > > I wonder if Lifton has studied the oppositional reflex that must exist > > even in devoted members, who are still close to the organization. It > > seems as if the innocence is so long gone that the movement's words > > would have a completely different effect by this time. > > > > When I talk with people who still do the program about the movement, > > there is so much eye-rolling that it makes me wonder who is more > > turned off to the "teaching". My guess is that although FFL is a > > small group who are willing to speak up, the eclectic lifestyle and > > practices represented here is more reflective of the majority of > > people still involved with TM than the old-school hardline. I meet > > people who keep their feelings and practices to themselves for fear of > > being cut out of courses. I would love to know the numbers on both > > these sides. > > ******** > > The hard core are definitely a minority here, although there are severe methodological and > sociological barriers to establishing the numbers. > > Even the more hip and liberated TMers often have localized "hot buttons" around certain > topics, like M's infallibility or Sthapathya Ved, etc. As a result, FF can be a conversational > mine field. > > L B S > > > > > --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" <l_b_shriver@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, that "disruptive" thing is tough to figure out. They are > > claiming that it's the decisive > > > factor in "most" of the rejections, which totalled 16 when I first > > applied a couple of weeks > > > ago. I know 4 or 5 of them personally and still don't get it. For > > example, what's so fucking > > > disruptive about David Hawthorne? I'm sure Tim Britton would leave > > his bagpipes outside > > > if they asked him nicely. Were they expecting Shiva Ma to perform > > homa on the foma? > > > Could it be that David Bousefield was going to ambush CPs with his > > outlaw Deeksha? > > > > > > L B S > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" > > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > presence in the Dome would be "disruptive". > > > > Disruptive? Hah,it is about MOJO. Oh heck L B, Bevan just thinks > > > > you got more MOJO than Bevan or any Raja worth a million. It is > > > > pretty obvious. Yeah, you're just a weapon of mass destruction in > > > > their book. > > > > > > > > Best Regards fra FF, > > > > > > > > -Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh BTW, L B, the next time you try to apply they will take you to > > > > the library basement where normal people do not go and then show you > > > > the 'rack'. It worked on Galileo. It worked on that wrong thinking > > > > before, you'll sing like a bird too recanting everything and signing > > > > about anything to git back in. Appeasement, it did not work before > > > > with Hilter either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" > > > > <l_b_shriver@> wrote:The resistance to my acceptance is pretty > > > > localized in the upper regions of the > > > > administration, although the perception there is that it is more > > > > widespread. > > > > Therefore > > > > there is some fear that my presence in the Dome would > > > > be "disruptive". > > > > > > > > Doug writing: oh heck LB, they just think you got more MOJO than > > > > Bevan or any Raja worth a million. It is pretty obvious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply below. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" > > > > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > "L B Shriver" <l_b_shriver@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends at FFLife, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I was officially informed on Sunday that I am not considered > > > > eligible > > > > > > at this time to > > > > > > participate, after nearly a month of having my application "in > > > > > > process"." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course not. They would have to eat way too much crow to let > > > > you in. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Doug in FF > > > > > > > > > > ******** > > > > > > > > > > The resistance to my acceptance is pretty localized in the upper > > > > regions of the > > > > > administration, although the perception there is that it is more > > > > widespread. Therefore > > > > > there is some fear that my presence in the Dome would > > > > be "disruptive". This is essentially > > > > > the Weapons of Mass Destruction argument—it is convenient, but > > > > doesn't match the facts > > > > > on the ground. They don't perceive that most people would rather > > > > have them let me in and > > > > > drop this blacklisting bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > Despite that, my application actually did get into the region > > > > where acceptance was a > > > > > possibility. There just wasn't enough momentum behind it to carry > > > > it through this time. > > > > > > > > > > From my point of view, this situation represents progress, and I > > > > believe that if you want > > > > > more of something in life, it's good to show appreciation. > > > > > > > > > > L B S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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