In short, if one finds oneself not wanting to be/do what MMY wants one to be/do for whatever reason (e.g. in order to be/stay in the domes, go on courses, etc.)and finds oneself pulled in another direction, then one has to choose. I go for choosing what one feels is calling one. Period.
--- In [email protected], "chaim_laib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > I *never* encountered any > > teaching in the TM context about "blind devotion > > to one's teacher" or "becoming in tune with one's > > teacher's thinking" as "the quintessence of spiritual > > practice." > > > > Although Maharishi may not have ever said this explicitly-I want you, > my followers, to become in tune with my thinking-he certainly > requested this, no, demanded it in every way. If you did not do what > he said, when he said, you were out, All things are done his way or > it's the highway. After enough of this, you learn to do exactly what > you are told to do. > > Also, and perhaps more to the point, how many dozens of times did I/we > hear the story, either directly from Maharishi, or on the taped story, > or rehashed/recounted by Bevan, et. al, of how Maharishi put himself > in tune with Guru Dev and in his innocent, Trotakacharya-like > self-atunement with his Guru Dev, his own consciousness merged with > Guru Dev's/Universal C'ness. > > This was told over and over and many Westnerns took this to mean that > if they want to rise to the heights of enlightenment they need to do > the same. People will tell you this in nearly plain English by > (selectively) following things Maharishi has said and parroting back, > "Maharishi said...." > > I know for myself, many years after the fact, I still have that little > voice looking over my shoulder for everything. It's hard to remove it. > > Many of the so-called TBers have carried this self-atunement to the > letter and many also look unhealthy and have strained in thei lives > for years. Far be it from me to critidize for this but I couldn't keep > it up. > > Chaim > > > > > > > > OK, Barry does say these people are "close followers." > > Perhaps he means TM teachers, who may have received > > the teaching he describes while the rank-and-filers > > did not? > > > > But who on this forum is a TM teacher and a TB? I > > can't think of anybody offhand. > > > > <snip> > > > It's *Maharishi* who has the hangup about "loyalty," > > > and who views anyone who isn't completely "faithful" > > > to him forever as weak and a failure, or an actual > > > enemy. It's *Maharishi's* mindset we see in the words > > > of the TBs, spoken by people who don't even know that > > > the mindset they're expressing is not their own. > > > > > > And interestingly, I think the reason Maharishi feels > > > this way is that he's doing the same thing the TBs on > > > FFL and elsewhere in the TMO are doing, projecting > > > his own internal dis-ease outwards. > > > > > > IMO Maharishi feels "betrayed" by those who don't do > > > everything he says because *he* didn't do what Guru > > > Dev told him to do. He was told to go off and > > > meditate, and *not* to teach, and he did the opposite. > > > I honestly think that inwardly he feels that he > > > betrayed his teacher, and that these feelings come > > > to the surface for him whenever someone "betrays" > > > him by not doing exactly what *he* tells them to do. > > > > Just one other point: A "hangup about loyalty" is > > common in many, many groups, spiritual or otherwise. > > It's particularly common in politics (see the general > > condemnation of Joe Lieberman among Democrats, just > > for one example). > > > > So the "hangup about loyalty" mindset that the > > mysterious teacher-TBs on this forum manifest, > > according to Barry, need not have been acquired from > > MMY; they could have encountered and absorbed it in > > any group they had worked with. > > > > It's certainly rife among many of the other followers > > of Guru Dev; just think of the abuse that's been > > heaped on MMY for going his own way (including the > > story Barry cites of Guru Dev having told MMY not to > > teach). > > > > So if Barry's insight is sound, we'd have to assume > > *Guru Dev* fostered those loyalty hangups as well, > > and that Guru Dev did so because he felt guilty > > about betraying his own teacher. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
