--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
wrote:
> >
> > For me, if I just took MMY's personality and surface
> > behavior I'd have dismissed MMY and the TMO sometime
> > in the late 70's. However I have been profoundly
> > impacted by MMY's techniques and his presence. I
> > experience MMY as radiating an all consuming energy of
> > the Transcendent. He is incredibly powerful. If I did
> > not experience him as this "Blazing Brahman" his
> > surface behavior would have turned me off decades ago.
> > I find SSRS to be radiating this same energy; an
> > infinite vastness. I didn't experience SSRS like this
> > until after two years of interacting wityh him. Then
> > one day: POW! 
> 
> I've heard people on FFL say this often over
> the last year, and noticed that no one ever
> asks them the obvious question. That is,
> why do you think that it is *Maharishi's*
> "presence" or SSRS's "presence" that you're
> perceiving? 
> 
> It sounds more likely to me that what you 
> and other folks like Jim are experiencing 
> is your *own* energy on a good day, and 
> mistaking it for Maharishi's or SSRS's.
>

Hi Barry, isn't your statement above like saying the sun really 
doesn't give off any heat- what we are experiencing on a cloudless 
day is our own increased metabolism?

Unlike those you are addressing, there is nothing...absolutely 
nothing in it for me whether or not Maharishi or Brahmananda 
Saraswati are or were or will be enlightened. To use a crude phrase, 
I could give a rat's ass, either way.

Nonetheless I also do not doubt my perception. Just like anything 
else, something is true for me if it continues to be true according 
to my direct perception. And as far as I can tell, both Brahmananda 
Saraswati and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi are supremely enlightened. SSRS 
too. 

It is not a difficult thing to assertain, and really needs no 
thought to confirm. It is simply energy signature matching, as all 
Self realized souls have a very distinct and unmistakeable energy 
signature.

However if you continue your belief that Maharishi is not 
enlightened, I have absolutely no argument with that.








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