Gerbal, I am guessing that at this point, Judy and Sparaig read and respond to 
each other's 
posts, but not many other people do - at least not regularly.  
snip> > >
Sal wrote:
> > Judy, you are making distinctions with no visible difference at 
> all.  
> > You're implying that people *may* go around routinely saying things 
> > they may or  may not believe, so that invalidates what Barry (and 
> > others) claim MMY said.  That's insane. *Nobody* in the world goes 
> > around appending "and what I just said I firmly believe to be 
> true," to 
> > every statement, or to any of them for that matter. Most people say 
> > what they believe to be true at that point in time-- unless they 
> are 
> > purposely trying to deceive--and leave it at that.  It's what most 
> > communication is based on.  What you are putting forth basically 
> means 
> > the end of any and all honest communication.
> > 
> > If this is what you really believe, how to you ever get a 
> conversation 
> > going with anyone?
> > 
> > Sal
gerbal wrote: 
> Careful, Sal, she'll try to banish you! 8-)8-] 8-} -- you'll be sent 
> to some far off place to "go and teach". 
> 
> Judy doesn't have conversations; from what I can gather from her odd 
> way of stating what she calls obvious, she simply transforms her 
> version of a statement into a convoluted notion of events or 
> statements she feels comfortable arguing with or putting down; she 
> just enjoys the thought that she can influence the thinking of 
> others. 
> 
> She used to be sharper and could actually zero in on relatively 
> useful false statements of conclusions or false reasoning. But these 
> days she's simply getting weird. I think the last thing I saw of hers 
> was something to the effect that she didn't defend Mahesh (or wasn't 
> defending Mahesh), she was simply pointing out the feasibility of his 
> (and I forget the rest). It seemed like she was saying she didn't 
> defend him, she just defended him. I don't know if anyone made any 
> mention of it because it was simply too off the wall to bother with. I
> m sure she'll dig it out, re-post it, defend it and point out my 
> shortcomings as if it mattered; but to her, I suppose it does.
> 
> Maybe (as in MAYBE) Mahesh managed to influence the way people 
> thought; the TMO would seem to be an apt example. But you, like so 
> many others, have seen through Judy's very sad and pityable state of 
> need. I guess she has followers, Lawson seems to have his nose 
> permanently affixed in one of her orifices, but I can't see she has 
> an actual following. 
> 
> Keep up the good work Sal. We always need to be reminded that fancy 
> words are not necessarily meaningful words and are not always likly 
> to be coming from a good and well intentioned source.
>







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