--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" 
> <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> >
> > Guru Dev speaks about who and who cannot become gurus, and the 
> > following are translated extracts of satsang number 74 of 108, 
> > included in a collection of his teachings entitled 'Shri 
> > Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita' 
> >  
> > 'There is no mention of women being gurus anywhere in the
> > shastras. Women cannot be a guru. Gargim, Chudala, Sulabha etc. 
> > were women who had become yogis and possessed of self-knowledge. 
> > But it is not met with anywhere that they made their own
> > disciples.'
> > 
> > '...But not everyone can be a guru. Actually, only brahmans to
> > be in the position of guru. In addition to brahmans, kshatriyas,
> > vaishya, shudras can become shishya (disciples), but not guru.
> > Women also have no right to be made a guru.'
> >
> > 'Nowadays kaayastha, vaishya, teli (oilman), and also kalavar 
> > (seller of spirits) are taking to wearing the colours of the
> > sadhu (holy man) and are eagerly wishing to make shishya 
> > (disciples) of their own. Actually both this kind of guru and 
> > shishya (disciple) are to get their downfall. Actually this
> > speech we are saying coincides with the shastras, it is not 
> > something of my own that I have made up.'
> >  
> > Jai Guru Dev
> > Paul
> 
> You agree with Guru Dev that women and those of
> lower caste should not be gurus, Paul?
>

Buddha said that women were incapable of enlightenment and that 
women in monasteries would always be subservient to men.

Culturally ingrained sexism? or maybe they know something we don't?





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