--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" 
> <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> >
> > Guru Dev speaks about who and who cannot become gurus, and the 
> > following are translated extracts of satsang number 74 of 108, 
> > included in a collection of his teachings entitled 'Shri 
> > Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita' 
> >  
> > 'There is no mention of women being gurus anywhere in the
> > shastras. Women cannot be a guru. Gargim, Chudala, Sulabha etc. 
> > were women who had become yogis and possessed of self-knowledge. 
> > But it is not met with anywhere that they made their own
> > disciples.'
> > 
> > '...But not everyone can be a guru. Actually, only brahmans to
> > be in the position of guru. In addition to brahmans, kshatriyas,
> > vaishya, shudras can become shishya (disciples), but not guru.
> > Women also have no right to be made a guru.'
> >
> > 'Nowadays kaayastha, vaishya, teli (oilman), and also kalavar 
> > (seller of spirits) are taking to wearing the colours of the
> > sadhu (holy man) and are eagerly wishing to make shishya 
> > (disciples) of their own. Actually both this kind of guru and 
> > shishya (disciple) are to get their downfall. Actually this
> > speech we are saying coincides with the shastras, it is not 
> > something of my own that I have made up.'
> >  
> > Jai Guru Dev
> > Paul
> You agree with Guru Dev that women and those of
> lower caste should not be gurus, Paul?

Buddha said that women were incapable of enlightenment and that 
women in monasteries would always be subservient to men.

Culturally ingrained sexism? or maybe they know something we don't?

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