--- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Ingegerd"
<marwincornyarmand@> wrote:
> >
> > I heard Geoffrey Clements say something similar many years 
> > ago, when he visited Norway. When we meditate TM - something 
> > is happening in the brain, more coherence. If we meditate 
> > with people that is not doing TM - their vibes will disturb 
> > our brain wave function. Some of the TB's told us not to have 
> > non-meditating friends - because it was not good for us, and 
> > never meditate in the same room as others that used other 
> > meditation technique. I think I would be very comfortable 
> > to meditate in the same room as Yogananda and Guru Dev.
> > Ingegerd
> 
> ********
> 
> When I first came to MIU in the mid-70s, a friend told me 
> that once during meditation he felt a presence sitting next 
> to him. The thought came, "Zen Buddhist". A voice spoke to 
> him telepathically and said, "What right do you have to 
> transcend?" Then it continued: "This is how I transcend."
> 
> At that moment, according to my friend, "the bottom fell 
> out" and he plunged into the deepest meditation he had 
> ever experienced. As I recall, he didn't find the 
> experience to be negative.

Although this story sounds somewhat hyped up and
fictionalized, that *IS* what it's like to meditate
with someone who can go into samadhi for long periods
of time. The bottom really does "fall out," in the
sense that as long as that person stays in thought-
less samadhi, *you* stay in thoughtless samadhi. 
Forget the "maximum of several seconds" stuff that
Sparaig talks about from the experiments; we're
talking twenty minutes to an hour easy, sometimes
longer.

When you think about it, this may be one reason that
the TMO doesn't want its people meditating with those
from other traditions who can transcend for long 
periods of time. As long as they don't know it's 
possible, they don't know what they're missing.







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