--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I snipped it where I did so most of my response would appear on the 
> FFL notice board.

You snipped it to make it appear I had misquoted you.
If it had been an honest mistake, you wouldn't have
tried to put over a flimsy excuse.

> You ascribe so many motives to my postings - come on what
> is YOUR agenda?

My agenda is fairness, honesty, and accuracy.

You were none of the three in the post I was
commenting on, nor the one I'm responding to
now.

> AND have you EVER actually practised this meditation thing 
> you claim to have done.

???

> Are you just one of those anti-TMers who 
> wants to make the Maharishi and the TM method appear so ineffective?

Notice that Paul hasn't addressed any of my points.

He rarely addresses *anybody's* points if they're at
all challenging.  He attempts to change the subject,
or he responds with a non sequitur.





> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" 
> > <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)..<Snip>.'
> > >
> > > I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's
> > > Tennis Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple!
> > 
> > Nor did I say you noted that he was speaking at a Hindu
> > temple, did I, Paul?
> > 
> > "As Paul notes" referred to your "Excerpts of speech
> > made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he was known as
> > such)."
> > 
> > You intentionally deceptively snipped the rest of
> > the sentence to make it appear I was misquoting you.
> > "To devout Hindus" was obviously *my* parenthetical,
> > since you'd said nothing whatsoever about who he
> > was speaking to.
> > 
> > If we know for a fact that his audience at the Young 
> > Men's Tennis Club in Delhi were not devout Hindus, then
> > of course I'll withdraw the parenthetical.
> > 
> > My main point, as you know, was that--as I went on
> > to say, and as you yourself noted--MMY was speaking 
> > before he had conceived the idea of a nonsectarian
> > meditation technique for the masses.]
> > 
> > No cigar, Paul; not even a nice try.
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" 
> > > > <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Excerpts of speech made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he 
> was
> > > > > known as such) in which he asked that Guru Dev's 'elevating 
> > > > > discourses may reach the masses in every nook and corner of 
> our 
> > > > > country and abroad' 
> > > > > - for full text go to 
> > > > > 
> http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/Maheshspeech.htm
> > > > 
> > > > As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)
> > > > before he had conceived the idea of a nonsectarian
> > > > meditation technique for the masses.
> > > > 
> > > > Your oft-repeated insinuation that MMY was trying
> > > > to hide Guru Dev's teaching because it would reflect
> > > > poorly on himself still doesn't wash, Paul.
> > > > 
> > > > MMY has *always* taught the nonsectarian elements
> > > > of what Guru Dev taught.
> > > > 
> > > > What he *could not* do was to teach what Guru Dev
> > > > taught about meditation if he wanted TM to be
> > > > universally accepted, which is what I was pointing
> > > > out in the post you quote.  Nor could he even have
> > > > made it available, for the reasons I explained (and
> > > > which you have not challenged).
> > > > 
> > > > Can you find a recorded or transcribed talk of
> > > > Guru Dev--about meditation or anything else--that
> > > > has no sectarian elements, that would be 
> > > > universally acceptable, even to those who do not
> > > > believe in God?
> >
>







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