--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley"
> <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > 
> > > I assume that the moderators (Rick, Alex, and
> > > whoever) can tell what a poster's real address
> > > is behind their Yahoo address. I hereby give
> > > them permission to "bust" me publicly here if 
> > > their resources show that I (TurquoiseB/Barry) 
> > > am the same poster as Geezerfreak.
> > 
> > Actually, Barry, I can't see your email or IP address because you
> > config'd your subscription with the "Hide my email and IP address from
> > the group moderators" option. And, I don't think Rick, the group
> > owner, can see them either. I did look up geezerfreak's IP, and it's
> > an AOL IP. I googled the newest post I could find by Uncle Tantra on
> > a.m.t (Apr 25 2005), and it originated from out-of.ilog.fr
> >
>   
> Of course, logically speaking, Barry could simply write messages to a
> friend in the states who posts them under a yahoo name barry set up.
> 
> But the "energy signiture" appears quite different between the two. An
> obvious thing Jim appears to have missed. Normally, no harm, no foul. 
> 
> But for Jim, who has made (it appears to me) quite definitive and
> fully-confident observations based on his ability to clearly
> distinguish "energy-signitures" of different people, or to "look at
> them a certainway" virtually --not in person --  and "gain specific
> knowledge" of them, as well as the ~"only WE can recognize each other"
> phenomenon, it perhaps is significant that his foo foo raydar is
> malfunctioning in the case of Barry and Gezzerfreak. Makes you wonder,
> could it also be malfunctioning in other confident observations of his?
> 
> Not to pick-on or focus on Jim, but (mis)interpreting ones abilities,
> experiences and states is a key issue /hurrdle, IMO. This is one of a
> number of examples posted, periodically, where the interpretation does
> not fit the circumstances, though to the observer they really [really]
> seem to. 
> 
> Thus, perhaps,the value of a Guru who has lived the Supreme state for
> 30-40 years, has seen many false claims and false starts, to
> verify and label experiences, and not to solely rely on co-dependent
> praises from "a circle of friends." [Termed a "circle jerk" by one
wag".]
> 
> As to states of consciousness that Barry brought up, on the surface,
> there appears little connection to the ability to distinguish two
> posters -- and the state of ones consciousness. 
> 
> Unless, if one claims they have special knowledge, insights and
> abilities that stem from their "Enlightenment" -- however defined --
> and these special abilities are shown to be only imaginations, then it
> does cast some shadows on claims of total Enlightenment. And/or the
> persons correct interpretation of what they experience.
>
Good lord people....the paranoia! No, I am not Barry. I don't who
Barry is...I only know his name is Barry because someone....god is it
that uber yenta Judy?...calls him that. Barry, sorry man. (I'd like to
know you since you seem to have your head screwed on pretty tight.
When did you do your "time"? Mine was Seelisberg and therebouts...1972
through '76.)

There's a handfull of posters here who know me well. Anyone who
desires...please step forth and let Barry off the hook. You can give
my true identity as Judy Stein. That's right, I'm at war with myself.
It's a stretch I know, but I'm hoping that this keeps me, if not
relevant, then at least in the FFL public eye. You know, any publicity
is good publicity.





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