--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > <snip> > > > This entire group of people who have never tried > > > any other technique of meditation or self discovery > > > but TM, many of whom have been too afraid even to > > > *read* about any other technique but TM, and yet > > > they consider themselves authoritative about the > > > subject of meditation as a whole. > > > > None of whom, of course, are participants on this > > forum, given that many of the discussions here are > > about other techniques. > > > > <snip> > > > He kept people SO "spiritually sheltered" and > > > isolated that they never could become exposed > > > to anyone who could tell them, "Hey, I've listened > > > to the stuff you talk about, and you never seem to > > > get past A, B and C...don't you KNOW that there are > > > other letters?" > > > > Note the hidden and unquestioned assumption here > > that in a series, such as the alphabet, the full > > series is of greater value than its initial > > elements by themselves. That's true, of course, > > in the case of the alphabet, but the metaphor > > may be seriously flawed when applied to the basis > > for techniques of awakening. > > > > As to lack of exposure, some of us have chosen to > > expose ourselves, outside the TM context, to a > > fairly wide range of what people say about the > > other "letters." On the basis of our own > > experiential and intellectual understanding, > > we have concluded that D, E, F, etc., not only > > do not add anything to A, B, and C, but actually > > detract from the understanding (experiential as > > well as intellectual) of the fundamental nature > > and mechanics of consciousness. > > > > We think these additional letters represent a > > failure to grasp the significance and ramifications > > of A, B, and C and thus don't represent "progress" > > at all, they represent a *less* complete and, in > > some cases, downright incorrect understanding. > > > > A more appropriate metaphor might be the series > > that begins with elementary particles and ends > > with apparently solid objects. If knowledge of > > solid objects is not grounded in knowledge of > > elementary particles, it's not only incomplete, > > it's wrong, since the solidity of these objects > > is only apparent, not real. > > The ultimate form of this enforced ignorance > I'm talking about, of course,
Except, of course, as I pointed out, some of us have never paid any attention to the recommendation not to explore other traditions (as if that could ever *be* "enforced" on those not involved with the TMO). is when someone > points out that the diehard TMer really doesn't > know very much, they *admit* that they don't > know very much, and then they try to make a > case for not knowing very much being *superior*, It may be a matter of *what* one knows rather than *how much* one knows, a possibility that Barry's Rules are far too inflexible and doctrinaire even to consider. > a position that actually makes them *better* > than those who know more than they do. This would appear to be Barry's projection of his own sense of inadequacy, since nobody ever suggested such a thing. > It's like listening to the George W. Bushes > of spirituality. :-) :-) :-) I see a vastly closer resemblance to Bush-think in the postings of Barry and other True Non- believers than in those of the committed TMers here (in Barry's case, complete with the chronic tendency to promote knowing falsehoods, and the inability to address challenges). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
