TurquoiseB wrote: >--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>sparaig wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>TM is not that unique in its process. It is called "yogic >>>>meditation" in other circles. The actual use of the bijas >>>>particularly without OM is what is considered unorthodox. >>>> >>>> >>>From what I've seen of how people describe other purportedly >>>simple and easy meditation techniques, very few are actually >>>simple and easy. >>> >>> >>All that says is you haven't seen very much. Hence my term >>"spirituality sheltered." >> >> > >It really IS pretty amazing, isn't it? > >This entire group of people who have never tried >any other technique of meditation or self discovery >but TM, many of whom have been too afraid even to >*read* about any other technique but TM, and yet >they consider themselves authoritative about the >subject of meditation as a whole. > >It's one of the things that keeps me fascinated >by TMers, after all this time. I mean, you've >been around the spiritual block a bit, right? >Have you *ever* encountered any other group that >knows as little as your standard TMer or TM >teacher and yet believes that they know so much? > > I've always kept company with people from other organizations. Some were folks who had learned TM and looking for more and not finding it found it in other organizations. I learned a lot from them. Before learning TM I was trying other techniques. I can also say like those others I found myself wanting more but not finding in TM and moved on.
>I keep coming back to the teaching analogy that >Maharishi used to use, in my opinion ironically. >He used to speak about the kid who goes to his >first day of school and learns A, B and C and >then comes back and teaches his siblings A, B >and C, because that's all he knows. > >As far as I can tell, the entire range of know- >ledge I ever read or was exposed to in the TM >movement was just that -- A, B and C. Since >leaving the TM movement and spending almost 30 >years doing a lot of reading in other traditions, >and studying directly with teachers who cover >the subjects that can't be written down, I've >probably encountered only seven or eight more >"letters of the alphabet." In this lifetime I'll >never learn even a *fraction* of the knowledge >that is out there. > > > My guru emphasizes this all the time that even what he knows is only a tiny part of the knowledge and it is impossible to know it all. >But at the same time I've come to realize that >(in my opinion) Maharishi himself was always >seriously light in the loafers in terms of how >much *he* knew. I honestly think that *he* was >aware of only A, B and C, and knew little or >nothing about the other "spiritual letters of >the alphabet," the other 90% of the body of >spiritual knowledge. > > > If we had a dime for every junior Hindu priest in India that knows a little or enough to teach a meditation course we'd be rich! :) They are all over the place there but most just stick close to their temples to seek enlightenment for themselves and serve their community. >His genius, if it could be called that, was to >convince stupid Westerners that he knew more than >he did, and to keep repeating endless variations >of A, B and C for forty years. Doing this, he >*not only* convinced most of the people listening >that they were hearing the entire "alphabet" of >spiritual knowledge, but *also* convinced them >that *they* knew more than seekers from any other >tradition. He kept people SO "spiritually sheltered" >and isolated that they never could become exposed >to anyone who could tell them, "Hey, I've listened >to the stuff you talk about, and you never seem to >get past A, B and C...don't you KNOW that there are >other letters?" He created an environment in which >fear of drifting "off the program" was so strong >that most of his followers don't even have any >*curiosity* about learning more; they're that >convinced that they already know everything that >is worth learning. > > > I've found that people from other organizations tend to treat TM folks respectfully from a distance knowing they have this 'tude. :) >It's a truly amazing accomplishment, in a strange >sort of way... > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
