--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > In the spring or early summer, MMY predicted the fall of some > > governments, specifically UK abd US. If that is meant in the > > parlimentary sense of a change of party, not a constitutional > > collapse, then the Rep gov't could fall in Nov if House and Senate > > change parties. Bush would be a lame Duck president, under heavy > > investigations, with no neither house behinde him. Approaching > > powerlessness. > > He also predicted that people would start TM at $2500, pundits would > come to FFL, NLP would succeed, Peace Palaces would be built through > out the US, everybody would want yagya's, TM mall stores would > succeed.... What makes you give more credence to the political > predictions?
This is an important point. I have seen it in *so* many spiritual trips. When one (a seeker) has *invested* his or her belief in someone as powerfully as seekers do in their teachers, there is a strong tendency towards "selective seeing" in the followers. That is, they tend to "see" the things in the teachers' "seeings" that reinforce and validate the myths that the teachers themselves promulgated about themselves. I certainly saw it in the Rama trip. Students tended to remember the "seeings" of the future that turned out to be correct. And they simultaneously tended to *forget* the "seeings" that *didn't* turn out to be correct. In the last few years I was around the Rama trip, I started writing down his pronouncements, in order to keep track of them. As far as I could tell, about 50% of them turned out to be correct. The others were sadly off the mark, sometimes startlingly so. In the final analysis, he did no better at "seeing" than he could have done by flipping a coin. BUT, if you were to ask any of his former students who still believe strongly in his myth, they would tell you that his "seeings" were ALL right on, absolutely correct. ALL of them came to pass. Go figure. It's just something that happens, in my opinion, one of those games we play with ourselves as students. When trying to deal with a complex and very human teacher, students tend to project more-than-humanness onto him. Or her. Or them. It's Just What Happens. So if I were a long-time student of Maharishi, I'd pay some attention to John's point above. When you go back and analyize things critically, without wear- ing the blinders of devotion, how accurate *were* his "seeings?" If they were no more accurate than a coin flip, or less so, perhaps you should question the more-than- humanness you projected onto him. Or not. That's a private concern, and thus the private business of every seeker who really seeks clarity, and is not merely in the business of settling for what is presented as clarity. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
