On Oct 4, 2006, at 12:55 PM, coldbluiceman wrote:

 Vaj wrote:

coldbluiceman wrote:



Vaj wrote:
Samaya Sri Vidya does not require any
externally obvious signs.


Namaste Vaj Ji,
Please tell me what exactly are 
the "signs of Sri Vidya"?


External ritual.


Namaste Vaj ji

Please tell me of this external ritual?
For example puja?


Samaya practice is internal 
(i.e. you might not necessarily see such  
a practitioner doing anything obvious externally).


Please tell me is this "samaya" the same "tm-samya"?

There are different ways of classifying tantric practice. In one of these ways-of-seeing, samaya tantra is internal tantric practice, not relying on external ritual but rather an internal practice. For a great example, see Shankara's tantric works like Saundaryalahari--but as I indicated before, not everyone accepts Shankara as the author...



 Not
finding a secret practice on a web site
is no indication that it is
not practiced,
nor should we be surprised it is not practiced
everywhere.


Maybe, but you insisted "Sri Vidya" 
was practised by Adi Shankara
and at His established mutts.


You might want to look at 
what I did originally say:


Ok.


"Sri Rajareshsvari is a form of
the Goddess worshipped in Sri Vidya  
and popular in the cult of the Shankaracharyas. 
A very old pagan and  
tantric Goddess. "


i must politely take exception with your statement.
As when i *google* your "Rajareshsvari" name i come with nothing!!

However if i *google* the name i told you- "Tripurasundari" i come 
with 16,000 sites related to Devi Tripurasundari
Results 1 - 10 of about 16,000 for tripurasundari. (0.58 seconds

Try the transliteration "Rajarajeswari". It's not Her only name, she has many names. 

It seemed such common knowledge, I assumed you would've known.





It has a long association with these traditions,
esp. the
southern seat.


I gave you the link to the "southern seat" here it is again.
Why not email the "southern seat" directly and ask them if the
Shankaracharya there at Kanchi worships a "sri yantra'??
5). Kanchi mutt- here is the link go see if this mutt engages in
 worship of Sri Yantra


I'm guessing what's confusing you is that 
they refer to it as a Sri  
Chakra.
 FYI this is synonymous with "Sri Yantra". 


No Sir. As i pointed out to you before.., when Adi Shankara 
presented gifts to Devi Tripurasundari at the temple in Kanchi. He 
gave Her earrings as gifts the earrings were called "Sri Chakra".
Please check the wedsite i provided for the Southern Seat.

The worship(or devotion/bhakti) of Sri Devi Tripurasundari is 
related to Sri Chakra, and practrised in the Kanchi mutt. The 
devotion/bahkti done to Sri Tripurasundari involves puja(or Arti) 
and homage(or prayer) and RoopDhyana(or rememberance of Her divine 
form) and  does not involve "secret rituals". 

The "sri yantra" are mandalas painted on concrete or stone or paper 
or made with sand-(as in the Tibetan Buddhist practice of sand 
mandalas) and involve a mental concentration on a "yantra".

It's certainly one way.



Perhaps you might  
want to look at the description of what 
Adi Shankara carved into the  
rock there (at the Sharada temple site) 


Where?


and what Vidyaranya installed  
at numerous other places.





BTW, just a casual glance at itineraries
shows participation in Sri Vidya rituals.


Please- *Specifically Identify from those "itineraries" which
are "sri yanta rituals"?
I want to know what you are calling "sri yantra rituals".


I think you're just playing games.


I think you are playing games, and attempting to get me stare at
*VERY Artistic Mandalas* that my lovely wife 
paints on concrete for
celebrations at our local "Hindu" temple.

Are those mandalas my wife paints 
part of some "sri yantra ritual"?


Maybe you should ask her?


Well on occassion i assist her, as some are very large.
However when the- frequent So. Indian visitors(some are pundits from 
the Sri Meenakshi) come to our temple they view her painted 
mandalas. While they comment on the significance of her manadals, 
they never ascribe any sort of worship to them!

Different strokes for different folks.



Just what FFL needed--another game player.
Excuse me if you are
actually ignorant in this area,


Sir Vaj Ji,
I am not ignorant.
I just don't by into your whole-, "tantric / shankaracharya / sri
yantra secret rituals" thing.
I have been to 2 Shankaracharyas(1 north & 1 south) and 2 living
disciples of Sri BrahmanandJi Maharaj and 1 Jagadguru Acharya (my
spiritual master).
And, in 20 years i never heard of any secret teaching of "sri
yantra"!!..i assure you I am not ignorant in these "areas".


LOL, what makes you think you'd 
hear of a secret teaching? 


LOL, What makes you think they are "secret teachings"?.. i can 
find "sri yantra" worship on the internet right now!!

Of course you can. Big deal.

Sorry, I'm not interested in any more games and FYI I have little interest in Brahmanic temple ritual. I'm just not the church going type.

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