> Vaj wrote: > > coldbluiceman wrote: > >> Vaj wrote: > >>> coldbluiceman wrote: > >>>> Vaj wrote: > >>>> Samaya Sri Vidya does not require any > >>>> externally obvious signs. > >>>> > >>> Namaste Vaj Ji, > >>> Please tell me what exactly are > >>> the "signs of Sri Vidya"? > >> > >> External ritual. > >> > > Namaste Vaj ji > > Please tell me of this external ritual? > > For example puja? > > > >> Samaya practice is internal > >> (i.e. you might not necessarily see such > >> a practitioner doing anything > >> obvious externally). > >> > > Please tell me is this "samaya" the > > same "tm-samya"?
> There are different ways of classifying > tantric practice. In one of > these ways-of-seeing, samaya tantra is > internal tantric practice, not > relying on external ritual but rather > an internal practice. Namaste Sir Vaj Ji, I humbily request your *Source* of your "samaya Tantra"?? And, are you sure you are not mis-spelling "samaya"? i think there is supposed to be another "m" in there..,samayma".. maybe? > For a > great example, see Shankara's tantric > works like Saundaryalahari--but > as I indicated before, > not everyone accepts Shankara as the author... Good point Sir, as no one in Kanchi Mutt(your- "southern seat") *ever* claimed Sri Adi Shankar ever wrote any "tantric works". And, that comes straight from the source.., at Kanchi Mutt. > >>>> Not > >>>> finding a secret practice on a web site > >>>> is no indication that it is > >>>> not practiced, > >>>> nor should we be surprised it is not practiced > >>>> everywhere. > >>>> > >>> Maybe, but you insisted "Sri Vidya" > >>> was practised by Adi Shankara > >>> and at His established mutts. > >> You might want to look at > >> what I did originally say: > > Ok. > > > >> "Sri Rajareshsvari is a form of > >> the Goddess worshipped in Sri Vidya > >> and popular in the cult of the Shankaracharyas. > >> A very old pagan and > >> tantric Goddess. " > > i must politely take exception with your statement. > > As when i *google* your "Rajareshsvari" > > name i come up with nothing!! > > However if i *google* the name i told you- > > "Tripurasundari" i come up > > with 16,000 sites related to > > Devi Tripurasundari > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tripurasundari > > Results 1 - 10 of about 16,000 for tripurasundari. (0.58 seconds > Try the transliteration "Rajarajeswari". Ok..i did and you know what?.. She is same Devi Tripurasundari!! And, She did in fact recieve earrings as a gift from Sri Adi Shankar. And, the earrings gifted by Sri Adi to Devi Lalita Tripurasundari Rajeshwari were knwon as "Sri Chakra"!! > It's not Her only name, she > has many names. Correct > It seemed such common knowledge, > I assumed you would've known. You mis-spelled it. > >>>> It has a long association with > >>>> these traditions, > >>>> esp. the > >>>> southern seat. > >>>> > >>> I gave you the link to > >>> the "southern seat" > >>> here it is again. > >>> Why not email the "southern seat" directly > >>> and ask them if the > >>> Shankaracharya there at Kanchi > >>> worships a "sri yantra'?? > >>> 5). Kanchi mutt- here is the link go > >>> see if this mutt engages in > >>> worship of Sri Yantra > >>> http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html > >> I'm guessing what's confusing you is that > >> they refer to it as a Sri > >> Chakra. > >> FYI this is synonymous with "Sri Yantra". > > No Sir. As i pointed out to you before.., > > when Adi Shankara > > presented gifts to Devi Tripurasundari > > at the temple in Kanchi. He > > gave Her earrings as gifts the earrings > > were called "Sri Chakra". > > Please check the wedsite i > > provided for the Southern Seat. > > http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html > > > > The worship(or devotion/bhakti) of > > Sri Devi Tripurasundari is > > related to Sri Chakra, and practrised in > > the Kanchi mutt. The > > devotion/bahkti done to Sri Tripurasundari > > involves puja(or Arti) > > and homage(or prayer) and RoopDhyana > >(or rememberance of Her divine > > form) and does not involve "secret rituals". > > The "sri yantra" are mandalas > > painted on concrete or stone or paper > > or made with sand-(as in the Tibetan Buddhist > > practice of sand > > mandalas) and involve a mental > > concentration on a "yantra". > It's certainly one way. Most politely Sir Vaj Ji, is your "tantric samaya" another way? > >> Perhaps you might > >> want to look at the description of what > >> Adi Shankara carved into the > >> rock there (at the Sharada temple site) > > Where? > >> and what Vidyaranya installed > >> at numerous other places. > >>>> BTW, just a casual glance at itineraries > >>>> shows participation in Sri Vidya rituals. > >>> Please- *Specifically Identify from > >>> those "itineraries" which > >>> are "sri yanta rituals"? > >>> I want to know what you are calling > >>> "sri yantra rituals". > >>>> I think you're just playing games. > >>> I think you are playing games, > >>> and attempting to get me stare at > >>> *VERY Artistic Mandalas* that my lovely wife > >>> paints on concrete for > >>> celebrations at our local "Hindu" temple. > >>> > >>> Are those mandalas my wife paints > >>> part of some "sri yantra ritual"? > >> Maybe you should ask her? > > Well on occassion i assist her, > > as some are very large. > > However when the- frequent So. Indian > > visitors(some are pundits from > > the Sri Meenakshi Temple) come to > > our temple they view her painted > > mandalas. While they comment on the > > significance of her manadals, > > they never ascribe any sort of worship to them! > > Different strokes for different folks. So are you saying you care to worship my wife's painted manadalas? As you are certainly welcome to! i don't you gain any spiritual benefit, and probably just get fatigued. > >>>> Just what FFL needed--another game player. > >>>> Excuse me if you are > >>>> actually ignorant in this area, > >>> Sir Vaj Ji, > >>> I am not ignorant. > >>> I just don't by into your whole-, > >>> "tantric / shankaracharya / sri > >>> yantra secret rituals" thing. > >>> I have been to 2 Shankaracharyas > >>> (1 north & 1 south) and 2 living > >>> disciples of Sri BrahmanandJi Maharaj > >>> and 1 Jagadguru Acharya (my > >>> spiritual master). > >>> And, in 20 years i never heard of any > >>> secret teaching of "sri > >>> yantra"!!..i assure you I am not ignorant > >>> in these "areas". > >> LOL, what makes you think you'd > >> hear of a secret teaching? > > LOL, What makes you think they are "secret teachings"? > > .. i can find "sri yantra" worship on the > > internet right now!! > > Of course you can. Big deal. Then your "secret teachings" of "sri yantra" are commonly avialable on the internet? > Sorry, I'm not interested in any more games > and FYI I have little > interest in Brahmanic temple ritual. Most humbily Sir VajJi.., i am playing "games"..i am just trying to determine if what your preaching is gounded in any *Historical Fact* or are you Sir just "playing games"?? > I'm just not the church going type. Well Sir Vaj Ji you are the person who suggested we could find your highly questionable practise of "tantra samayma" in the "Southern Seat" of Kanchi Mutt and the "Shanks." of various peeths of Adi Shankar might be found there!! Guess what Sri Vaj Ji?..all the "Shanks." and all the Mutts of Adi Shankar all perform "Brahmanic temple ritual" in their respective "churches"! By your claim of dis-interest in "Brahmanic temple ritual" are you finally admitting-, you made up this stuff about "tantric samayma"? Are you a salesman? with name like "Vaj" posting here at FFL.., i am guessing you are trying to sell these gullible "tm-ers" more practises. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
