--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> new.morning <no_reply@> wrote:
> 
> "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > Those skin-boys who have digested and integrated the experience and
> > > moved on, do provide some insights at times, IMO, but I always keep
> > > with a handful of salt in my hand. others who are still struggling
> > > with, digesting the experince, yet to fully integrate its lessons --
> > > their views provide less value to me.
> 
> 
> > All of which is your way of saying the Rajas and Kings trip looks
> > ducky to you? 
> 
> 
> And why would you suggest that? I said nothing as to my views of the
> raja thing. As we all do at times -- i am a great offender at times --
> you are perhaps seeing something on the page that is not there. If not
> on the page, where is it? In my experience, such things are in my
> head, not on the page. It occurs when I read something with other than
> a fresh view, and impose some pre-judgement on the poster as to their
> views.
> 
> But since you aparently asked (implied an inquiry) my views, at a
> minimum, I can see other /additonal possibilities for some rajas other
> than:
> 
> * incredible nonsense 
> * the pinnacle of an infantile dependant
> * "see, all these years were not a waste and did pay off"
> * some of us have become divine beings 
> * we are now worthy of being worshiped'.
> 
> And I can see other /additonal possibilities for some meditators 
> other than: 
> 
> * continue[ing] playing the role of dependant child a little longer
> after MMY kicks the bucket
> * feeling protected by their newly coronated royal lineage
> * while totally reinforcing the projection that they are in fact
> separate individuals on a cosmic journey
> * [a view that] one day too they will also finally become 'worthy', 
> keeping the game going at all cost, even if the cost is the last
> remnant of  commonsense.
> * it's insanity on a high scale and a display of the sense of
> separation in one of its more
> outrageous and ridiculous manifestations!
>  
> 
> As far as being "ducky", I am no longer in the habit of a continually
> judging everything I see as good/bad/ducky/sucky. More of the time, I
> drop that clutter of the (monkey) mind, and just say "oh". Observation
> observed. "Interesting". 
> 
> Unless I need to actually make a personal decisioon on something, why
> jugge it as good or bad. And even If I judge it as "not ducky for me,
> I decide this action or non-action", that does not imply or extend to
> a view that it serves no value for some others.
> 
> > The topic of the post was the over the top weirdness
> > going on in Vlodrop these days.
> > 
> > You say you "know" these guys from their posts. Your armchair analysis
> > of this particular guy's present mental state couldn't be more
off-base.
> >
> 
> Since you have not disclosed who it is, I am not in a position to
> specifically comment on this person's degree of digesting his skin-boy
> experience. But judging by the above comment, he seems prone to
> extremes, and ranting -- as some, not all, former skinboys are, IMO. A
> sign, IMO, of undigested / unintegrated experiences
> 
> For example, "incredible nonsense and the pinnacle of an infantile
> dependant relationship to life". This seems characteristic of an
> obsession with, seeing things that are perhaps reflective of his
> continuing struggle with his past demons -- al la "how could I have
> been so duped".
>
Blah, blah, blah blah blah. Damn, you take a long time to answer a
simple question!





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