--- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> >> Judy, has it ever occurred to you that adults don't tell other
> >> adults
> >> what they'd "like you to do"?  That it's usually up to the 
> >> person to
> >> decide for him/herself what is best?  I guess not.
> >
> > Some people are only comfortable in a situation in
> > which they are constantly told what to do and what
> > not to do. After thirty years or so of this, they
> > aspire not to enlightenment but to telling other
> > people what to do and what not to do.  :-)
> 
> Exactly.  Condescension becomes a way of life, and if you can't 
> beat em, join em, I guess.
> 
> It's very doubtful Judy would put up with the manipulation in 
> the TMO were it to really occur with anyone else, with any 
> frequency at all.  She'd simply find a new doctor, dentist or 
> whatever.  But it's impossible to admit she's been taken in all 
> these years.

Bingo.

I really do think that that's the issue. She (and
many others) have a fairly fixed sense of self.
When it's challenged, and someone sees them differ-
ently, they feel the need to "defend" that imaginary
fixed self. And one of the things that a fixed self
*hates* to do is admit that it may have been stupid.  :-)

Those of us who are a little more fluid, and who are
used to laughing at ourselves (our selves, however
temporary and imaginary they may be) are often more
able to kick back and say, "Yup...I sure got taken
to the cleaners on that one."  






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