--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> As far as the states reached in hypnotic techniques, I found them > identical to what I had experienced in TM in my own experience. But I > know it can be argued that I was just used to transcending. In my > small group of therapists, who were in the hypnosis training with me, > I was able to test if other people would have the type of experiences > that I had through TM and sidhis through hypnosis. They would report > very similar states of mind. <snip>
Hi Curtis, an interesting discussion, to be sure. From a subjective standpoint I can say I experience 'higher states' of consciousness or just plain other states of consciousness very differently now than I used to. Let me preface this by saying I have never been prone to mood-making. In fact it kinda grosses me out and hurts when I see it, only because my heart hurts for those doing it, since it is fake, and I want them to genuinely feel what they are faking....very much an Ewwww/Owww type of experience. Anyway, when I would have a higher states experience in the past, it would be like the shift of a tectonic plate within; one moment I'm...here, and the next I'm...there, with no clarity around how I got to 'there' from 'here'. So it could've been I was hypnotized or externally influenced somehow. And 'I' felt different; not quite myself. My experience now, with whatever I am moving from or to, is that the experience is wholly mine and I can review the transition in time, so that wherever I might go, be it transcending, asleep, champagne high, emotional envelopment, etc. there is no longer the "wha' happened?!?!?" accompaniment; I am always where I am. This is a different experience I think that the trance state you are describing, because there is no loss of me at any time. While my subjective experience may change and possibly drastically, I am always tracking, big or small, high or low, light or dark, its always just me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
