--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > "trying doing your sadhana in a brothel" > > > > > > > > I think I may have found a spiritual path that might suit my > > > > nature. > > > > > > LOL. I wrote parts of my book sitting at the bar of > > > Yab Yum, the most famous brothel in Amsterdam. It > > > was actually a beautiful room, full of Asian art > > > and buddhas and all, but the women didn't hurt, > > > either. I liked the basic honesty of the place, and > > > the interplay of energies. > > > > Yeah, there's nothing like the "when am I going to get my > > $50.00" honest look of a hooker... > > That's why it's an honest place, Shemp. It's on a > bit of a different level than that. > > The women themselves are all beautiful (of course), > but most are well-educated, and many have careers > as consultants or scientists, and do their gig in > the evenings at Yab Yum because they want to retire > at 30.
I have no problem with either brothels or women freely selling their bodies for sexual favors...many marriages are just that anyway. What I have a problem with is the continuation of the "retire at 30" myth because no such thing ever happens for 99.9% of these women: 1) in order to obtain such a lofty goal, the output they will have to go through vis a vis fucking is astronomical; 2) if they are, indeed, one of the 0.1% able to fuck enough men to get enough money to "retire at 30", their brains and body (not to even mention their spirit) will be so ruined that there will be nothing to enjoy that retirement with. 3) factor in the fact that this is a legal brothel you are talkihng about where all monies, expenses and revenues are tightly and strictly controlled and 100% of income they earn is taxed...I invite you to show me how any of these women can make enough money to have any type of nest egg. 4) It is demeaning in a very major way to women...and I'm not talking about the sex part here; as I said, I'm okay with that...I'm referring to the "well, I have to pay my way through college" claim or the "I have to feed my children" line we've all heard from both strippers and hookers. That's bullshit...if you need money, get off your ass (no pun intended) and get a real job because today women can compete right there alongside men and, in many cases, do BETTER than men. I work in a profession that in the rare instance a woman enters it she will be 10 times better than a man and make 10 times more. It is too easy an excuse to say "I'm doing this to retire at 30" or "I am forced to do it because I need the money". Total crap and it's just an excuse to take the easy way out. And when I say "easy way out", the hooking business, particularly of the kind that you describe, Barry, is a life not spent so much on your back as it is spent on your ass watching TV and smoking cigarettes waiting for a John to choose you in the line-up with 20 other broads. For every 30 minutes you spend with a "trick" you spend at least 5 hours in waiting time getting chosen...and very few are spending that down-time studying for Surgery 101 or Torts in Civil Law. It's a life of do-nothingness and boredom and AVOIDING life. > It's the kinda place where your neighbors at > the bar may be princes or the Rolling Stones. To > even get in the door cost a $100-200 cover charge, > with the cost of "going upstairs" being more like > $300-500 an hour. > > I never indulged "upstairs." I had done a favor for > the owner of the club (teaching his son to meditate > and thus end a long drug habit), so I had a "free > pass" to go there for free anytime I wanted. But I > also had a girlfriend whom I cared about deeply, so > in a way it really was as if I were being celibate > in a whorehouse. :-) And although you probably won't > believe it, it really *was* a very honest place. > There was none of the pretense and posturing that > one would normally find in a nightclub, where > everyone is there lookin' to get laid, but no > one is honest enough to admit it. > > (Interestingly enough, it was also probably a *safer* > place than a nightclub, in terms of AIDS and other > diseasees. Nothing happened there without a condom, > and the prostitutes themselves had to be tested every > month to be able to ply their trade.) > > It was the kinda place where people would come with > their wives or girlfriends, just to enjoy a drink > and the decor and listen to the music. The Dutch are > far more comfortable with their sexuality than > Americans are. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
