--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Thanks for taking the time to clear things up, Gina.
> 
> The way it looks to me, the conservative legal group
> got involved *as a result of the article*, not as part
> of some anti-TM "hit." The desire on the part of some
> TMers to believe that they're the target of some huge
> conspiracy against them seems to me to be Just Another 
> Desire To Be Important.  :-)
> 
> What you have described of the meeting itself bears out
> my original suspicions -- what "did in" the grant proposal
> was the TM movement's own history, its karma coming home
> to roost. No one would *have* to invent anything negative
> about them; all that is necessary is to say what they've
> done in the past, >>

Such as?

OffWorld


and leave it up to the imagination of
> the non-TMers as to whether they can be trusted not to
> do it again with a new generation of recruits.
> 
> --- In [email protected], gimari03 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > OKay, a quickie reponse, then I'm done.  Just to explain the 
> > situation, as I saw it, for those interested.
> > 
> > I attended alone.  There was NOT a planned outcry/battle against 
> > this, to my knowledge.
> > 
> > In fact, no "debate" nor conversation" was tolerated.
> > 
> > The high school made an announcement - I saw it in the paper.  
> > An "informal informational" meeting was being held about this 
> > new program funded by the DL foundation- with open invitation 
> > to interested parties.  Since my kids graduated from the 
> > school, I was curious.
> > 
> > The "informal" meeting was a slick roll out of a program.  
> > Seven well educated speakers came up to present benefits of 
> > TM-the-technique with extensive computer overheads by 
> > power point and video.  They spoke w the standard smooth 
> > reassuring monotone.
> > 
> > A few mintues were allowed for questions.  One person asked 
> > about the puja or mantras. The MSAE headmaster at the podium 
> > dodged the question "We have a proven method of instruction 
> > that is identical and personalized for each individual."
> > 
> > The TLHS principal became uncomfortable with a few questions, 
> > she said there was nor more time for questions.  I had a few 
> > questions also, was not allowed to ask.
> > 
> > When it became clear that we were not allowed to ask anything, 
> > Susan C calmly walked onto the stage, past the principal and 
> > MSAE headmaster.  She stood center stage and said "I am a 
> > former TM teacher" blah blah..  She said maybe two sentences.  
> > (I didn't know she lived here.)
> >
> > The principal called for security to remove her from the stage 
> > and the lights were dimmed.
> > 
> > Someone else (a man I know w/o religious nor TM affiliation) 
> > yelled "Allow her to talk!" I tried to hush him.
> > 
> > Another father yelled "We didn't come to hear her.  We came 
> > to hear them!" pointing to the TMO folks.  Then he added "You 
> > don't have kids here anyway!  What do you care?!"
> > 
> > My friend said "Yeah! Well they (pointing to the TMO folks) 
> > don't have kids here either!"
> > (oi!)
> > 
> > Meeting ended.  Some folks gathered to talk near the stage. 
> > Reporter was taking photos.  I walked away and talked to a 
> > few folks in the back of the auditorium.
> > 
> > There was no screaming and flailing of arms in protest of a 
> > normal debate at the high school.  There was no normal debate 
> > nor civil question-and-answer allowed.
> > 
> > It was like watching the two halves of my heart doing battle 
> > (my upbringing and loved ones in TMO vs my local community)
> > 
> > Some parents were concerned about TMO's hidden agenda, as 
> > they had prior exposure to TMO decades ago.
> > 
> > Newspaper article came out about someone storming the stage.
> > 
> > A few days later I wrote my "letter" (as posted here). It 
> > was cc'd around.  48hrs later the DL foundation withdrew 
> > the grant.
> > 
> > I don't know about right wing Christian legal threats (there 
> > might have been, or not, I do not know)
> > 
> > The parents that I know were concerned about potential TMO 
> > hidden agenda.  To my knowledge, no one spoke of religious 
> > conflict.  
> > 
> > IMHO, if a religious program claimed to be a religious program 
> > (e.g. a prayer group) then fine.  The TMOs hidden agenda was 
> > the concern.
> > 
> > We were all surprised about the press' spin of "religious 
> > minority".  I don't know what religious affiliation, if any, 
> > other parents have.  
> > 
> > Perhaps a right wing group was invovled behind the scenes.  
> > Perhaps not.  Again, I don't know.  Just wanted to inform 
> > my hometown-of-sorts.  
> > 
> > Otherwise, I have more pressing issues in my life.
> > 
> > That's all folks.
> > Best to all!
> > Gina
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], gullible fool <fflmod@> 
wrote:
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Same thing here. This quote was designed to make
> > > it look as if the Lynch grant was the victim of
> > > a "hit" when in fact it was the victim only of
> > > the TM movement's own history being revealed.
> > > This quote was designed to appeal to *TMers*, 
> > > and to make them feel persecuted. Fascinating
> > > how many people here on this group fell for it.
> > > 
> > > Also, I think it's important to look at the 
> > > *response* from the Lynch Foundation. When con-
> > > fronted, they cut and run. An indicator to me
> > > that the only way they'll *ever* get a program
> > > like this accepted is to do it quietly and behind
> > > closed doors, so that no one can tell the "buyers" 
> > > what it is that they're buying and who it is 
> > > they're buying from.
>





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