--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 10/21/06 3:01:11 P.M. Central  Daylight Time, 
> > drpetersutphen@ writes:
> > We are in Iraq for several  reasons. One is to open the
> > oil fields to a free market, democratically  elected
> > and US friendly government. This is just smart
> > politics and  planning for the future. Unfortunately it
> > isn't working out that way for the  US. We should have
> > listened to the state department, not the  defense
> > department!
> > 
> > Naaaaa. If we wanted the oil fields of Iraq to  flow, all we had 
> to do was 
> > lift sanctions against Saddam which were about to  collapse 
> anyway. That oil 
> > would have sold at market prices anyway, making Saddam  even 
> wealthier with oil 
> > prices as they are today. The overwhelming reason we are  there 
> today is to 
> > create a democracy in a region that is traditionally held by  
> dictators or 
> > absolute monarchies that have a reason to suppress their people 
> and  keep them 
> > ignorant and in poverty so as to be able to maintain their own  
> power. This leads 
> > to anger, hostility and hopelessness which gives rise to  
> terrorism. When a 
> > people can have more stake in their own future via a  government 
> they control 
> > through elections they are far less likely to want  to make war on 
> others so they 
> > can focus on developing their own country and thus  less likely to 
> get 
> > involved in supporting terrorism. The State Department was  all 
> for maintaining the 
> > status quo which would only perpetuated the current  state in the 
> middle east.
> >
> Gee, what an enlightened outlook all of a sudden from the US who had 
> no problem currently or previously supporting Mubarak in Egypt- 
> military dictatorship, The House of Saud- oligargical dictatorship, 
> Shah of Iran- dictatorship, and Saddam in Iraq- dictatorship. Ah 
> yes, the freedom we yearn for in the Middle East! Alarming naivete.
> 
> The only thing we want in Iraq is a puppet government that gives us 
> reliable access to Iraqi oil, without creating waves in the Middle 
> East. A stable dictatorship would be just fine with Cheney/Bush.
>

Don't assume that Bush and Cheney and company aren't patriots who want what is 
best for 
the country. A far more realistic appraisal of their thought processes is that 
they created a 
plan to democratize the Middle East more than 10 years ago using assumptions 
that few 
people agreed with back then, and have refused to reassess their assumptions 
since.

Oil, military bases, etc., are all involved in this plan and may drive it or be 
driven by it (or 
both) in some convoluted fashion, but the plan is the thing: the holy thing. 
And it can't be 
touched because the same fundamentalism that drives Bush and company in their 
Christianity drives them in their foreign and domestic policies as well: they 
ARE on a 
mission from God.




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