--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If that's the way some people choose to live their lives, 
> > > cool. Those of us who actually have subjective experiences 
> > > of interesting aspects of the enlightenment process and
> > > who aren't afraid to trust them wish these people well 
> > > with that approach. But it does seem to me that your 
> > > personal reliance on 'science' seems to have a great 
> > > deal of "Those who can, do; those who can't, do research" 
> > > about it.  :-)
> > 
> > Perhaps, but you're projecting all of the above on what you 
> > quoted me as saying. I worded my response quite carefully.
> 
> If I am projecting, I would say that it's based on 
> having watched your posts for years now, and having
> noticed a certain trend in them with regard to "TM
> science." It's as if the driving factor in your case
> is a search for hope, not a search for truth, along
> the lines of, "If they can prove that *someone* is
> having the experiences that I have not, then perhaps
> my trust in TM and Maharishi was not misplaced."
> 

I seldom claim experiences, but I'm pretty sure I've mentioned episodes of 
witnessing 
dreaming, witnessing sleep and witnessing waking states. Additionally, I've 
mentioned 
what I believe may have been a flash of Unity at one point. More recently, 
perhaps a flash 
of BC. But, how is MY non-permanent state without any external indications of 
its reality 
different than the insane person whose voices tell him to kill people? 

> I may be wrong in this, but that's really the feeling
> I get.
>

I'm just naturally skeptical of my own experiences and everyone else's, 
including MMY's 
and Gurudev's and Buddha's and Jesus's and so on.





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