--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > Well I can cop to my own waking state ignorance, but I never 
heard MMY
> > deny the details or the caste system contained in the Vedic 
texts in
> > this way.  Sanatana Dharma is in full support for the caste 
system and
> > Guru Dev was its champion.  So even though your point may be 
valid in
> > MMY's system for the 4 main Vedas, the texts that came later make
> > specific claims about the world.  One of those details are the
> > structure of the caste system which is supported by MMY every 
time he
> > talks about it. 
> 
> What I heard MMY say of caste has, in my words -- not his, a 
genetic
> basis -- and a micro-cultural aka family environment basis. If your
> father is a doctor, and your mother is a doctor (I know several 
people
> like that), then the probability is you will have an easier time 
being
> a doctor than something else. You have a genetic disposition 
towards
> it. And by the time you are 18, you already know huge amount about
> being a doctor -- just from dinner convos, walks on vacations 
talking
> with parents, seeing them with their peers, etc.
> 
> That view makes sense to me. Not that it should be iron clad. Nor 
iron
> chains to keep one "down". 
> 
> And there is honor, fame and wealth in all four "castes". A "sudra"
> might be a skilled craftsman, or artist or baseball player. 
> 
> And the four main castes are seen in most cultures-- by different 
names.
>

I really loved the movie "Bend it like Beckham" which is about a 
first generation Indian girl in London who is into girls' soccer.  
One of the sub-themes of the movie is how her father had been kicked 
out of an all-white cricket club because he was an Indian and how 
terrible all this racism and classism was.

At that point in the movie I felt like yelling at the screen: who do 
you think invented the whole idea of castes?





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