--- In [email protected], Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have heard him say that the caste system is due to ignorance and
has no place in world where even as low as once percent is doing
meditation.

I think he said the present state of the caste system is applied with
the same ignorance as all aspects of societies in ignorance.  His A of
E will not destroy the caste system, but will magically make it less
oppressive and cruel.  (he doesn't provide the details on just how
this would work other then the claim that it will work perfectly)

As a devout Hindu, MMY can no more deny the scripture based caste
system itself than a Catholic can deny the Trinity.  It is a core
teaching of Sanatana Dharma.  Hindus believe that the caste system is
the way God organized society.  It is essential for gaining
liberation.  Maybe some people with real Buddhist knowledge can tell
us about Buddha's opposition to the caste system.

Of course I haven't heard everything he has said so you may be right.



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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:00:16 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Castes
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > Well I can cop to my own waking state ignorance, but I never heard MMY
> > deny the details or the caste system contained in the Vedic texts in
> > this way.  Sanatana Dharma is in full support for the caste system and
> > Guru Dev was its champion.  So even though your point may be valid in
> > MMY's system for the 4 main Vedas, the texts that came later make
> > specific claims about the world.  One of those details are the
> > structure of the caste system which is supported by MMY every time he
> > talks about it. 
> 
> What I heard MMY say of caste has, in my words -- not his, a genetic
> basis -- and a micro-cultural aka family environment basis. If your
> father is a doctor, and your mother is a doctor (I know several people
> like that), then the probability is you will have an easier time being
> a doctor than something else. You have a genetic disposition towards
> it. And by the time you are 18, you already know huge amount about
> being a doctor -- just from dinner convos, walks on vacations talking
> with parents, seeing them with their peers, etc.
> 
> That view makes sense to me. Not that it should be iron clad. Nor iron
> chains to keep one "down". 
> 
> And there is honor, fame and wealth in all four "castes". A "sudra"
> might be a skilled craftsman, or artist or baseball player. 
> 
> And the four main castes are seen in most cultures-- by different names.
> 
> 
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