> > > > Here's a question for those of you versed in such > > things: do vedic traditions say a bija deity demands a > > vig on each transaction? > > I'm not sure what you mean by "vig" or if misspelt, what you >mean. > The TM mantras are NOT Vedic, this is just TMO misinformation. The TM mantras are tantric. They should give you energy, not take it >away. > But then again, there is the bija mantra, the seed mantra, and >the > dharani, or full chain of mantra which includes the bija. Some >have > argued since the full dharani is not given, this creates >imbalance. A > tantric might also argue that before you use such a mantra, you >have > to "prepare the field" by a process called bhuta-shuddhi or > purification of the elements. Doing mantra japa without it can > exacerbate imbalances. >
There is some truth to this explaination. You get a bija mantra with TM to start with and then may be build a more complete vedic mantra or full dharani mantra with the TM advanced techniques as you get them. Kind of expensive by the time you get the full balance if you get them. We have run in to TM mother divine who have had much mental and physical trouble from being on MD. Common maladies evidently on the MD program. Mental problems and bad health. Energetic entity possession too in the experiences. They do not have a way of talking about it within MD for fear of ejection/rejection so some MD can be in pretty bad shape, but are told the only way to get enlightened is to be on the program in MD. There is a lot of peer pressure there between the 'devotion' of being accepted there and when your days are split mostly between meditating and raising money. The Saraswati Mantra by contrast, > > > >> I know a good number of TMers who used the Saraswati-bija and > >> developed at an accelerated rate, musicianship and an eloquence >of > >> speech. > > > > I could use some eloquence. Where do I get this Saraswati bija? > > It's a standard TM mantra. You could also approach someone like >Amma > and ask for that aspect of the Universal Mother and she'll gladly >do > so (or used to anyways). > > > > >> I detect a hint of bias. > > > > Quite possibly. > Different from just TM, Yes, i have had good experience with using the Saraswati Mantra ala TM practice. Go to a Karunamayi public meeting and she often chants it call-and-response thus teaching it and initiating in the course of things. Her CD's of the key Vedic mantras are very useful to just have playing or to use to learn the mantras to use to meditate with. On her tours she holds meditation retreats. They are wonderful opportunities to sit, meditate and clarify things with a saint. I particularly like doing meditations with about one third of time with Saraswati Mantra, one third with Gayatri Mantra and one third with Mytrianjaya Mantra. Extremely powerful doing this for an hour and more. Saraswati quiets the mind. Gayatri cleans the subtle energy systems of the body-mind complex and Mrytanjaya reveals the large soul through the mortal system. These are within the vibratory nature of the mantras. They work that way and they seem very good and effective in my experience. The TM is a good foundational technique but a baby meditation. So it is. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
