--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 5, 2006, at 9:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:24 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> We have run in to TM mother divine who have had much mental and
> > >>> physical trouble from being on MD.  Common maladies evidently on
> > >>> the MD program. Mental problems and bad health. Energetic entity
> > >>> possession too in the experiences.
> > >>
> > >> I do wonder about this. What types of mental problems? Can you be
> > >> more specific? I know from my own experience, I went to visit THP
> > >> at the end of the 80's in the Catskills. Along with me was my wife
> > >> and a friend is also extremely psychic. They were both shocked and
> > >> appalled by the energetic depletion they saw on these guys. Now
> > >> they had come along with us expecting to see these advanced yogis,
> > >> instead they said they looked like they had been repeatedly and
> > >> continuously vampirized; sickly.
> > >
> > > I have to say that this has always been my subjective
> > > assessment of anyone who has spent a long time "round-
> > > ing" in a TM context as well. Self discovery and enlight-
> > > enment are, as I understand them, about becoming *more*
> > > capable, *more* able to handle the world. Some of the
> > > guys I knew who spent a long time on such reclusive
> > > courses can barely find their mouths with a spoon.
> > 
> > 
> > It's interesting what various high lamas have been doing at this  
> > junction in time. Their students will have mantras for peaceful  
> > deities and wrathful ones as well. What they are saying, at this  
> > particular time there is such widespread negativity, that what the  
> > world needs is groups of people doing wrathful mantra at specific  
> > times, often for 24 hour periods. People sign up for an hour and we  
> > get groups connected so it's going on, around the planet,  
> > continuously for a day, or sometimes a week. This helps to subjugate,  
> > tame and transform negativity in a way that mirrors the  
> > interdependent nature of reality. Peaceful mantras won't cut it.  
> > People constantly evoking these devatas passively is like standing  
> > with a light in the middle of a large swamp: it attracts the blood- 
> > suckers; or like going into the most violent neighborhood and  
> > protecting yourself in a street fight with a spork.
> >
> 
> Vaj, the Republican Party operative of FFL...
> 
> If you can't poison the well one way, come up with another.
>

I apologize. You were talking about your own group's behavior, not what TMers 
should 
REALLY be doing, though of course, using your typical holier-than-though 
rhetoric.

TMers do that too, of course.






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