--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:24 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> >
> > We have run in to TM mother divine who have had much mental and
> > physical trouble from being on MD.  Common maladies evidently on 
> > the MD program. Mental problems and bad health. Energetic entity
> > possession too in the experiences.
> 
> I do wonder about this. What types of mental problems? Can you be  
> more specific? I know from my own experience, I went to visit THP 
> at the end of the 80's in the Catskills. Along with me was my wife 
> and a friend is also extremely psychic. They were both shocked and 
> appalled by the energetic depletion they saw on these guys. Now 
> they had come along with us expecting to see these advanced yogis, 
> instead they said they looked like they had been repeatedly and 
> continuously vampirized; sickly.

I have to say that this has always been my subjective
assessment of anyone who has spent a long time "round-
ing" in a TM context as well. Self discovery and enlight-
enment are, as I understand them, about becoming *more*
capable, *more* able to handle the world. Some of the
guys I knew who spent a long time on such reclusive 
courses can barely find their mouths with a spoon.

> > They do not have a way of talking about it within MD for fear 
> > of ejection/rejection so some MD can be in pretty bad shape, 
> > but are told the only way to get enlightened is to be on the 
> > program in MD. There is a lot of peer pressure there between 
> > the 'devotion' of being accepted there and when your days are 
> > split mostly between meditating and raising money.
> 
> Wow.

This sadly goes along with what I've heard from an
old TM friend who has friends who are currently on
MD. Without naming names, she tells of these women
leaving the course and coming to spend time with her
and her husband periodically so that they can break 
down and cry for three weeks solid, in private, 
before going back to the course and having to pretend
to be blissful all the time.

It strikes me that such "breakdown breaks" are no
substitute for the professional care these women need,
or for an environment in which they don't have to 
hide what they really feel, and thus one in which such 
problems wouldn't come up as much.






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